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>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JOINING
THE OCTOBER 20th 2020 SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE.
I'M TERESA MOSQUEDA, THE CHAIR
OF THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
AND THE RECONVENED SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BACK IN
SESSION.
CLERK, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL
FOR US?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT?
>> HERE.
>> STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS?
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS?
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES?
>> HERE.
>> AND COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
>> PRESENT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS ONE MORE TIME.
>> SORRY, I WAS AWAY FROM THE
COMPUTER FOR JUST A MOMEN.
I AM PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU, NINE PRESENT.
>> THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR
REJOINING THE COMMITTEE TODAY.
OCTOBER 20, 2020.
THE TIME IS 2:03 P.M., AND
WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH OUR
AGENDA AS INTRODUCED AND
ADOPTED THIS MORNING.
MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE
READ INTO THE RECORD NUMBER 3?
>> SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
DISCUSSION.
>> WELL, THAT WAS PERFECT
TIMING FOR THAT SIREN.
THANK YOU, SO MUCH MADAM
CLERK.
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR
JOINING US BACK AGAIN.
WE HAVE WITH US GREG DOSS,
LISA KAY, AND ALY PENNUCCI AS
WELL.
GREG, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO
YOU, AND A HUGE AMOUNT OF
APPRECIATION FOR YOU AND ALL
OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE
PROVIDED IN THIS ROBUST MEMO.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK
YOU'VE DONE ALONG WITH THE
TEAM.
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING IT
THIS AFTERNOON.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR,
YES, IT'S A LITTLE LONG, BUT
SPD IS OF HIGH ATTENTION, SO
WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS WE COULD.
THE PRESENTATION WILL BE A
LITTLE LONG TOO, BUT I'LL TRY
AND MOVE AS QUICKLY AS I CAN.
I WANT TO START OUT WITH THE
FIRST SLIDE, PATTY, IF YOU'D
SWITCH IT, PLEASE.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE
ENTIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE
CHANGES IN THE 2021 BUDGET
FROM THE 2020 ADOPTED.
WHAT I WOULD POINT OUT WITH
THIS PARTICULAR TABLE, OF
COURSE, IT'S STANDARD IN ALL
OUR PRESENTATIONS, IS THAT
MOST OF THE CHANGES MADE HERE
ARE THE RESULT OF THE TRANSFER
OF UNITS OUT OF SPD AND INTO
EXTERNAL ENTITIES.
WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN
SOME DEPTH TODAY.
THERE IS A, UM, THERE IS A
PERCENT INCREASE IN LEADERSHIP
AND ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT
IS A TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENT THAT
IS MADE BY REALLOCATING SOME
OF THE SPD'S INTERNAL SERVICE
COST.
JUST ABOUT ALL THE NEGATIVES
YOU SEE HERE, IN FACT ALL THE
NEGATIVES YOU SEE HERE DEAL
WITH MOVING FUNCTIONS OUT OF
THE SPD SO OTHER UNITS, WHICH
WE WILL ADDRESS.
SO, I'M READY TO GO ON UNLESS
SOMEONE WANTS TO STOP NOW.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANKS, GREG.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO PATTY, IF
YOU'D FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE,
PLEASE.
I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH A
PIE CHART THAT YOU SAW LAST
JUNE ON JUNE 10th.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF SPD'S
BUDGET I THINK IT'S
POTENTIALLY INSTRUCTIVE TO GO
OVER IT AGAIN JUST SO THAT,
UM, YOU IN THE PUBLIC
UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGET IS
PUT TOGETHER AND WHERE THE
MONEY IS SPENT.
IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR
BUDGET, IT IS ABOUT, UM, OH,
IT'S ABOUT 81% PERSONNEL
COSTS.
THAT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH
POSITION COSTS AND OVERTIME.
YOU CAN SEE THE 73.9% IN THE
BLUE, AND THEN THE 15.3%, OR,
I'M SORRY, THE 6.9% IN THE
ORANGE.
SO IF YOU PUT THOSE TWO THINGS
TOGETHER, THAT GETS YOU TO 81%
OR ABOUT 291 MILLION OF THE
PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THAT IS ALL SPENT ON
SALARIES, AND OVER TIME ABOUT
1400 SWORN AND 4800 CIVILIAN
FTE.
THE NEXT CATEGORY IS THE
INTERFUND CHARGES.
THAT'S THE 15.3% IN THE GRAY.
THAT INCLUDES FACILITY COSTS,
UM, COSTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED,
COLLECTED BY SEATTLE IT FOR
THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE BY
THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
HUMAN RESOURCES FOR SERVICES
THEY PROVIDE.
UM, AND IN OTHER BASIC
FACILITY COSTS.
THIS IS ANOTHER LARGE PART OF
THE BUDGET, AND WITH THE
ORANGE, BLUE, AND GRAY PART,
YOU'VE MADE UP 96% OF SPD'S
BUDGET.
THAT LEAVES RELATIVELY LITTLE
FOR DISCRETIONARY PURCHASES.
THERE'S ABOUT 14 MILLION LEFT,
ABOUT 4%.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE REMAINING
SLICE AT THE TOP THERE.
AND THOSE ARE FOR THINGS LIKE
FUEL, EQUIPMENT, AND
DISCRETIONARY PURCHASES.
WITH THAT AS ON OVERVIEW, I
WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO
THE CHANGES THAT'S MADE IN THE
21 PROPOSED.
AND SO, THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN THE 2021 PROPOSED AND
THE 2020 ADOPTED, I'LL START
OUT BY TALKING ABOUT THE
POSITION REDUCTIONS.
THERE IS AMONG THE SWORN
STAFF, A 47 FTE REDUCTION OF
POSITIONS.
THAT GOES FROM, AS YOU CAN SEE
IN THE BULLET BELOW, 1497
SWORN POSITIONS, WHICH IS WHAT
THE DEPARTMENT HAS
HISTORICALLY HAD THERE, TO
1450 SWORN POSITIONS.
WHILE THEY'RE ONLY REDUCING 47
POSITIONS, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
IS ALSO DEFUNDING ANOTHER 50.
SO OF THE REMAINING POSITIONS,
1400 ARE FUNDED, AND 50 ARE
UNFUNDED.
THERE ARE NO CITY AS A RULE
CIVILIAN POSITION LOSS, BUT AT
THE TIME MAYOR DEFUNDED 50.
AND THEN THE FIRST YOU SEE IS
THE SWORN SALARY REDUCTION.
THAT'S THE 15.7 MILLION
ASSOCIATED WITH TAKING 1497
POSITIONS DOWN TO 1400.
THERE'S ALSO A SWORN OVERTIME
REDUCTION, 2.7 MILLION, THAT
WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER.
I'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS AN
ISSUE.
THAT'S FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND
ALSO EMPHASIS PATROLS.
AND FINALLY, THERE'S A
CIVILIAN SALARY REDUCTION OF
$4.1 MILLION TO GO ALONG WITH
THE 40 POSITIONS THAT ARE
UNFUNDED.
SO I'LL STOP THERE AND ASK IF
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE
HIGH LEVEL CHANGES.
OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE
ALONG.
THE NEXT FEW ITEMS ARE, AS I
SPOKE ABOUT BEFORE, UM, THE
TRANSFER OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS
OUT OF SPD AND INTO NEW
ENTITIES.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT TRANSFER INTO AN
EXISTING ENTITY, THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
YOU HAVE ABOUT $15 MILLION AND
120FTES THERE.
WHAT'S NOTABLE ABOUT THIS ONE
IS IT INCLUDES 8,300,000 FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS NORMALLY WORKED
BY PARKING ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS WHEN THEY'RE
DIRECTING TRAFFIC AT EITHER
CITY-WIDE EVENTS LIKE SEAFAIR
OR SPORTING EVENTS LIKE
SEAHAWKS GAME.
THERE'S A TRANSFER OF THE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SECTION
INTO A SEPARATE EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENT.
THAT IS $2.5 MILLION AND 15
FTE.
AND PATTY, IF YOU'D FLIP THE
SLIDE AGAIN.
THERE'S A TRANSFER OF THE CALL
CENTER INTO THE NEW SEATTLE
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
THERE'S 18.5 MILLION AND 142
FTE.
AND THESE LAST TWO TRANSFERS
WILL BE COVERED IN SOME DETAIL
BY MY COLLEAGUE LISA KAYE
TOWARDS THE END OF THE
PRESENTATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THAT, SHE'LL GO INTO SOMEWHAT
OF A DEEP DIVE.
THEN THE LAST TWO CHANGES TO
SPD'S BUDGET, THERE WAS A
CIVILIAN OPA INVESTIGATOR
SUPERVISOR ADDED FOR 167,000,
AND THERE WERE ALSO SOME
OVERTIME DOLLARS ADDED FOR
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT, WHICH
IS GOING TO EXPAND ENFORCEMENT
BY CAMERAS TO TRANSIT ONLY
LANES, STOPPING WHEN TRAFFIC
IS OBSTRUCTED, AS YOU CAN
READ, CROSSWALKS, AND OF
COURSE RESTRICTED LANES,
INCLUDING THE LOWER SEATTLE
BRIDGE DURING RESTRICTED
HOURS.
AND THOSE ARE THE CHANGES IN
THE 2021 BUDGET.
SO I'LL STOP AGAIN AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE
WE MOVE INTO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
>> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, GREG.
UM, I AM WONDERING IF YOU
MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE
COMPARISON DOCUMENT.
COLLEAGUES, I REALLY
APPRECIATED THIS INFORMATION
THAT GREG HAS SUMMARIZED HERE
ON SLIDES 3 AND 4, AND THERE'S
MORE DETAIL, AS YOU KNOW, IN
THE MEMO THAT WAS PROVIDED TO
US, UM, THE FIRST THREE PAGES
OF THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO.
FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES, GREG
HAS OFFERED, OR THANK YOU,
GREG, FOR COMPILING MUCH OF
THE INFORMATION THAT IS IN THE
MEMO.
BUT FOR A QUICK SIDE BY SIDE
TO SEE HOW THE 2020 ADOPTIVE
BUDGET COMPARES TO WHAT THE
2021 PROPOSED BUDGET IS AND
THE PERCENTAGE OF CHANGE, UM,
IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO AN APPLES
TO APPLES COMPARISON, I
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL
FOR US IF WE WERE ABLE TO SEE
THAT CHART.
SO GREG, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO
SHARE THAT OR PATTY, THAT
WOULD BE WONDERFUL, AND WE
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON
THIS.
I KNOW THE INFORMATION IS
ALREADY WITHIN THE MEMO.
YOU'VE JUST PULLED IT OUT SO
IT'S EASIER FOR US TO SEE.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING
THAT.
GREG, BACK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AND I DID PULL IT OUT AND IT
IS REFLECTIVE OF THE
FUNCTIONAL CHANGES FOR S
APPROXIMATE, D'S BUDGET.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SIMILAR TO THE
PIE CHART THAT WE JUST WENT
OVER, WE HAVE THE EXPENDITURE
PERSONNEL, OVERTIME CHARGES,
DISCRETIONARY PURCHASES,
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, TRAVEL,
TRAINING, AND OTHER COSTS.
ON THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU'LL SEE
THE 2020 ADOPTED THAT WAS
$409 MILLION IS NOW DOWN TO
$359 MILLION.
AS I'VE POINTED OUT, THESE
CHANGES ARE LARGELY
ENCOMPASSED IN THE TRANSFERS
OF OTHER FUNCTIONS OUT OF SPD,
AND THE SALARY REDUCTIONS THE
MAYOR HAS MADE.
SO IN TERMS OF COMPARING 2020
ADOPTED TO THE 2021 PROPOSED,
IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRACK
EXACTLY, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO
TRACK EXACT WILL I THE
CHANGES.
SOME ARE OBVIOUS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A
CHANGE IN INTERFUND CHARGES.
THAT'S REALLY APPLES TO
APPLES, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT A
WHOLE LOT.
IT'S ONLY 40%.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING
LIKE OVERTIME, THAT, AS YOU
CAN SEE, IS 17%.
WE KNOW THAT 830,000 OF THAT
OVERTIME WAS TRANSFERRED OUT
TO SDOT AS PART OF THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT MOVE.
I WOULD IMAGINE SOME OF THE
DISCRETIONARY ACCOUNTS SUCH AS
THE PURCHASE ACCOUNTS NOW DOWN
BY 12%, THAT SOME OF THAT
AUTHORITY FOR THOSE SECTIONS
WHO HAD DISCRETIONARY PURCHASE
BUDGETS WAS MOVED ALONG WITH
THE UNITS SO.
THAT MAY EXPLAIN WHY SOME OF
THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN.
IT MAY NOT BE A POLICY
REDUCTION SO MUCH AS IT IS A
TECHNICAL REDUCTION OF MOVING
THE DOLLARS ALONG WITH THE
SECTIONS THAT MOVED TO OTHER
PLACES.
>> GREG, THANKS AGAIN FOR
PULLING THIS TOGETHER.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THIS ADDITIONAL CHART
WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO
BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE
PUBLIC RECORD, BUT WANTED TO
GIVE YOU THIS ADDITIONAL
SLIDE?
OKAY, NOT SEEING ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, GREG FOR
HIGHLIGHTING THIS, AND IF
THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP
QUESTIONS, WE'LL COME BACK TO
IT AS FOLKS DIGEST IT.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'LL ASK PATTY
TO MOVE TO ISSUE ONE WHICH IS
STAFFING.
OH, WELL, ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
WELL, I DON'T THINK I WENT
OVER THESE, SO I'LL GO OVER
THESE.
THE FIRST ONE BEING POLICE
STAFFING, THE SECOND THE
OVERTIME REDUCTIONS WE TALKED
ABOUT, AND THE THIRD BEING THE
2020 MID-YEAR REDUCTIONS.
TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN
THE MIDDLE OF 2020 AND HOW IT
RELATES TO 2021, AND MY
COLLEAGUE LISA WILL TALK ABOUT
911 DISPATCH AND OEM AND THE
TRANSFERS THERE.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO
THE NEXT SIDE.
>> GREG, REAL QUICK, COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
READ YOUR MEMO, I HAVE NOT,
UM, MY APOLOGIES, GONE THROUGH
THIS PRESENTATION.
AS IT RELATES TO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION FOR POLICE
STAFFING, UM, YOU ARE GOING TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE RELATED TO
THE NUMBER UM, OF, POSITIONS
IN THE PROPOSED 2021 BUDGET
BOTH FUNDED AND UNFUNDED AS
RELATES TO THE NEW INFORMATION
WE HAVE, UM, AROUND
SEPARATIONS, UM, AND THE FACT
THAT, UM, THERE MAY NOT BE A
NEED FOR, EVEN FROM THE
EXECUTIVE'S PERSPECTIVE, GIVEN
THE TIME IT TAKES TO HIRE FOR
VACANT POSITIONS.
THERE MAY NOT BE A NEED FOR
THE, UM, THE FULL 1450, 1400
POSITIONS, FUNDED POSITIONS
GIVEN THE, UM, THE FACT THAT
TO FILL THE VACANT POSITIONS
WE'RE SEEING NOW, UM, THEY MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO SPEND ALL THE
DOLLARS IN 2021.
>> YES, I WILL.
AND YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN MY
PUNCH LINE.
THE 2021 PROPOSED BUDGET IS
BASED ON 1400 FUNDED FTE AND
THE DEPARTMENT WON'T GET
THERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO ABOUT
1357.
BUT WE'LL GO INTO THAT A
LITTLE BIT LATER, YEAH.
SO PATTY, IF YOU FLIP TO THE
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SHOWS AN EIGHT-YEAR
HISTORY OF THE DEPARTMENT'S
FUNDING AND HIRING, AND JUST
TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS TABLE
A LITTLE BIT, FUNDED FTE.
THE COLUMN THAT'S SECOND TO
THE RIGHT OR SECOND TO THE
LEFT, SORRY, INCLUDES FULLY
TRAINED OFFICER, STUDENT
OFFICERS, AND RECRUITS.
THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT WOULD BE
PART OF THE SWORN HIRING PLAN.
THEN IF YOU SKIP ALL THE WAY
TO THE END, FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS ARE ONLY THOSE
OFFICERS WHO HAVE COMPLETED
WHAT SPD CALLS PHASE 2 FIELD
TRAINING, AND THEY CAN BE
INDEPENDENTLY DEPLOYED THROUGH
THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH
SYSTEM AS 911 RESPONDERS.
THAT'S WHEN AN OFFICER BECOMES
DEPLOYABLE AND USEFUL.
SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
TIME THAT HAPPENS FROM THE
TIME AN OFFICER IS HIRED,
ABOUT A FULL YEAR OF TRAINING,
FOUR OF FIVE MONTHS AT THE
ACADEMY, AND THEN PHASE 1 AND
PHASE 2 FIELD TRAINING.
IT TAKES ABOUT A FULL YEAR
BEFORE THEY BECOME FULLY
TRAINED AND USABLE BY THE
DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A STATISTIC AT THE END,
FULLY TRAINED, THAT'S
IMPORTANT TO SPD BECAUSE IT
DENOTES THE NUMBER OF FOLKS
THAT CAN BE DEPLOYED.
AND SO SORT OF WALKING YOU
THROUGH THIS TABLE WHICH YOU
CAN SEE OVER THE LAST EIGHT
YEARS, THE CITY HAS STEADILY
INCREASED SPD'S FUNDED FTE,
AND IN AN EFFORT TO BOOST
HIRING AND INCREASE THE
DEPARTMENT'S NUMBER OF FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS.
MOST RECENTLY THE CITY ADDED
10 NEW FTES IN 2019, AND 30
NEW FTES IN 2020.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE 2020
ORIGINAL PLAN ROW IN THE
TABLE.
THESE EFFORTS HAVE PRODUCED
MIXED RESULTS.
WHILE THE CITY HAS SEEN SOME
INCREASES IN RECRUIT HIRING,
IT'S ALSO SEEN A LARGE NUMBER
OF SEPARATIONS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE
LATER TODAY.
THE NET EFFECT HAS BEEN A
SWING BETWEEN SMALL GAINS, AS
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A 16 NET
FTE GAIN IN 2019, AND LARGE
LOSSES.
41 NET FTE LOSS IN 2018.
THIS YEAR, SPD HAS REDUCED THE
INTERNAL BUDGET ALLOCATIONS
FOR SWORN FTE FROM 1497 TO
1422.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE
MID-2020 LINE, WHICH IS CALLED
REVICED 2020.
AND THAT WAS AN INTERNAL
FUNCTION WHERE THEY WENT FROM
1497 DOWN TO 1422.
THEY DID THAT FOR A COUPLE OF
REASONS, ONE BECAUSE THEY WERE
HIRING FASTER THAN EXPECTED,
AT LEAST UP UNTIL THE FREEZE
IN AUGUST.
AND THEN THE SECOND WAS
BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO FREE UP
FUNDING FOR FISCAL ISSUES.
THE SIGNIFICANT OVERTIME COSTS
THAT THEY INCURED DUE TO THE
GEORGE FLOYD AND BLACK LIVES
MATTER DEMONSTRATIONS.
THAT'S REFLECTED WHERE YOU SEE
THE DROP OF 1497 TO 1422.
SPD'S LATEST STAFFING
PROJECTIONS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD INDICATES, ARE NOT
GREAT.
THEY JUST CAME IN ABOUT A DAY
OR TWO AGO.
I THINK PUBLICLY RELEASED ON
FRIDAY.
THEY INDICATE THE DEPARTMENT
WILL INCUR A NET HIRING LOSS
OF 79 FTE IN 2020.
THEY ALSO EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT
INCREASE IN ATTRITION GOING
FROM 91 SEPARATIONS TO 130
SEPARATIONS, WHICH IS THE
UPDATED PROJECTION.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
TALKED ABOUT, THE INCREASE IN
THE SEPARATION IS LARGELY
DRIVEN BY A SPIKE IN LAST
MONTH'S NUMBERS WITH 39 TOTAL
SEPARATIONS.
THIS ONE MONTH SEPARATION
TOTAL APPROXIMATED 42% OF WHAT
THE DEPARTMENT EXPERIENCES IN
AN ENTIRE YEAR.
SPD HAS DONE AN ANALYSIS ON
THE SEPARATION, AND YOU CAN
FIND THAT IN APPENDIX E OF THE
ISSUE PAPER.
I'LL SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU.
WHAT THEY FOUND IS THAT 75% OF
ALL THE SEPARATIONS ARE COMING
OUT OF PATROL POSITIONS.
THEY ALSO FOUND THAT OF THE
RESIDENCE RATIONS OR
SEPARATIONS, THERE ARE MORE
RESIGNATIONS THAN RETIREMENTS.
ABOUT 53 RESIGNATIONS AND 50
RETIREMENTS.
AND UNLIKE HISTORIC PATTERNS,
THE RESIGNATIONS ARE
DISPROPORTIONALLY OCCURRING
BETWEEN NEWER AND YOUNGER
OFFICERS.
IN FACT, ABOUT HALF OF THE
RESIGNATIONS CAME FROM
OFFICERS THAT WERE UNDER FIVE
YEARS OF SERVICE.
THEY INCLUDED 14 FTES THAT
WERE EITHER STUDENT OFFICERS
OR RECRUITS.
THEN ANOTHER 34% WERE OFFICERS
THAT WERE BETWEEN 5 AND 10
YEARS.
AMONG ALL RESIGNATIONS, 25%
WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
SO DISPROPORTIONATELY YOUNGER
FOLKS.
úI'M HIGHLIGHTING THE SEPTEMBER
SEPARATIONS BECAUSE THE
STAFFING PLAN, THAT WE TALK A
LOT ABOUT, IS ONLY AS GOOD
ABOUT THE PROJECTIONS MADE BY
SPD STAFF.
THE DEPARTMENT MAKES THESE
PROJECTIONS BASED ON
HISTORICALLY DATA AND
INFORMATION THAT IT'S GETTING
POINT IN TIME FROM THE SPD
HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE.
STAFF COULD NOT HAVE
REASONABLY PREDICTED WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN IN SEPTEMBER
WHEN CREATING THE PLAN, THEY
COULDN'T HAVE FORSEEN 39
SEPARATIONS IN ONE MONTH.
I THINK THE QUESTION NOW IS
WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD.
THE STAFFING MODEL ASSUMES IN
OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND
úDECEMBER A RETURN TO NORMAL
ATTRITION LEVELS, BUT THAT MAY
NOT COME TO BE GIVEN WHAT
WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST MONTH.
WITH THAT, I'LL START TALKING
ABOUT -- YEAH?
>> YES, I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD AND COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU, I JUST WANT TO
FLAG, AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS IN
ISSUE ID, AND IT IS MORE
RELATED TO 2020 AND
ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE IN THE
2020 REBALANCING, WE DID MAKE
ASSUMPTIONS IN THE 2020
REBALANCING THAT WE WOULD SEE
30 MORE SEPARATIONS THAN THE
91 OR 92 ANTICIPATED BY THE
EXECUTIVE AT THE BEGINNING OF
2020.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE FOR SOME
REASON, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHY,
WE TREATED, UM, THE
SEPARATIONS THAT WOULD OCCUR
THROUGH ATTRITIONS OR
VACANCIES THE SAME AS WE
TREATED, UM, THE BUDGET ACTION
ASSOCIATED WITH THE OTHER
REDUCTIONS THAT WE WERE
SEEKING, AND WE PROVISOD IT
FOR A DIFFERENT REASON, I
GUESS, IT WASN'T SOMETHING WE
HAD TO BARGAIN, BUT WE
COULDN'T BE CERTAIN WE WERE
ACTUALLY GOING TO RECEIVE THE
REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN FOR THE 2020 BUDGET?
ARE, SO WE KNOW THE EXECUTIVE
IS VERY LIKELY GOING TO SEND
US LEGISLATION TO LIFT, UM,
THE PROVISOS FOR THE POSITIONS
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE
BARGAINED.
BUT FOR THE POSITIONS THAT,
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE SEEING,
NEAR THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES
THAT THE COUNCIL ANTICIPATED
WOULD BE, CAN SEE, CAN WE
EXPECT TO REALIZE FUNDS FROM
THAT ACTION THAT WE TOOK OVER
THE SUMMER IN 2020?
>> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS
YES.
YES TO EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID.
THE START OF YOUR QUESTION
WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
REASON THAT IT WAS PROVISOD,
THE ATTRITION, OPPOSED TO
TAKING THE FUNDING IS BECAUSE
AT THE TIME, THERE WAS NO WAY
TO KNOW THERE WERE GOING TO BE
39 SEPARATIONS IN ONE MONTH.
NOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS
SEEN 39 SEPARATIONS IN ONE
MONTH, AND SEPARATIONS IN
ADVANCE OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT
WAS GOING TO OCCUR OR IN
ADDITION TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT
WOULD OCCUR, THERE'S
ADDITIONAL SALARY FUNDING IN
THE SPD BUDGET.
SO THE QUESTION, I THINK, FOR
THE COUNCIL IS WHAT TO DO
ABOUT THAT.
THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR THE
COUNCIL.
ONE MIGHT BE TO, UM, NOT
RELEASE THE PROVISOS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD
TAKE A LOOK AT AS STAFF AND
DETERMINE IF IT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN OR ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO
NOT LEFT AT
LIFT THE PROVISOS.
I THINK THE MOVE TO PUT MORE
OFFICERS INTO PATROL AND 911
RESPONSE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT
THAT LATER, UM, THE EFFORT TO
FOCUS ON MAKING SURE RESPONSE
TEAMS ARE HELD AND THAT CARS
RE AVAILABLE, THERE MIGHT BE
A CHOICE TO LEAVE THE MONEY IN
THE BUDGET FOR PATROL
AUGMENTATION, SO OFFICERS
COULD BE BACK FILLED ON
OVERTIME.
BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S MONEY
AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN
DISCUSS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT?
>> I BELIEVE, UM, THE QUESTION
I HAVE IS FOR A PREVIOUS
SLIDE.
I'LL APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS
AWAY FOR A FEW MINUTES AND MAY
HAVE MISSED WHAT YOU EXACTLY
SAID.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND ASK THE
QUESTION.
WHEN MY OFFICE LOOKED AT THE
SPD BUDGET, IT LOOKED LIKE
THERE WAS $18.4 MILLION IN
GENUINE BUDGET REDUCTIONS FOR
THE SPD, BY THAT I MEAN NOT
TRANSFERS OR TECHNICAL
CHANGES.
NAMELY 15.7 MILLION OFFICER
REDUCTIONS AND 2.7 MILLION
OFFICER OVERTIME REDUCTIONS.
BUT I THINK YOU SAID THERE
WERE NO REDUCTIONS OTHER THAN
THE TRANSFERS?
IF YOU COULD JUST, UM, EXPLAIN
THAT AGAIN.
SORRY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T
MISUNDERSTAND.
>> YEAH, SURE.
REALLY THEY FALL INTO TWO
CATEGORIES.
THERE WERE THE TRANSFERS, YOU
NOTED, OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT
FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT
SECTIONS, AND THEN REDUCTIONS
MADE FOR SWORN SALARIES,
CIVILIAN SALARIES, AND
OVERTIME.
AND THE OVERTIME ONE WE'LL
TALK ABOUT LATER.
THE SWORN SALARY REDUCTION
CAME ALONG WITH A REDUCTION IN
FTE, AND THAT'S ON, I THINK
THE FIRST PAGE OF THE ISSUE
PAPER AND FIRST POWER POINT
SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU, I DON'T SEE
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME.
>> OKAY, SO TO TALK MORE,
WELL, START TALKING ABOUT THE
MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
IN 2021, IT WOULD, AS WE JUST
TALKED ABOUT, WOULD REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF FUNDED FTE TO 1400.
THAT CAN BE SEEN IN THE SECOND
TO THE LAST LINE WHERE YOU SEE
PROPOSED 2021, 1400.
AND WHILE THE FUNDING IS BEING
REDUCED FROM A HIGHER LEVEL
THIS YEAR TO 1400, THAT'S NOT
GOING TO RESULT IN FEWER HIRES
IN 2021.
IN FACT, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE,
THE 2021 STAFFING PLAN
PROJECTS A NET HIRING INCREASE
OF 25 FTES.
IF YOU GO TO THE FAR COLUMN
THAT SAYS NET NEW OFFICERS.
AND IF YOU CARRY THAT THROUGH
2022, YOU'LL SEE IT'S 9 FTES.
THE DISPARITY EXISTS BECAUSE
THAT HUGE LOSS IN 2020 MOVED
THEIR STAFFING LEVELS BELOW
THE FUNDING LEVELS.
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT
SITUATION NOW AS A CITY, IT
ALLOWS SOME ROOM FOR GROWTH
FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
UNDER THE MAYOR'S STAFFING
PLAN, SPD'S SWORN STAFFING
LEVELS WOULD EVENTUALLY CATCH
UP WITH FUNDING LEVELS, AND IN
THE YEARS BEYOND 2022 WOULD
PROBABLY REQUIRE ANOTHER
FUNDING BOOST TO SUSTAIN
INCREASED OFFICER SALARIES AS
THEY MOVE THROUGH THE RANKS
FROM RECRUITS, TO TRAINING, TO
FULLY TRAINED OFFICER.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE FAR
RIGHT COLUMN WITH THE FULLY
TRAINED OFFICER, THE MAYOR'S
STAFFING PLAN EVENTUALLY
RETURNS THE DEPARTMENT'S
NUMBER OF FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS TO APPROXIMATELY,
WITHIN ONE OR TWO, OF 2019
LEVELS.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A
REASONABLE PATH FOR A STATUS
QUO BUDGET TO REFLECT THE SAME
REQUIREMENTS AND DEMANDS FOR
SPD SWORN SERVICES.
HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL HAS
EXPRESSED THROUGH ITS 2020
MID-YEAR BUDGET, COUNCIL BILL
119825, A POLICY PREFERENCE
FOR A SMALLER POLICE FORCE
THAT PROVIDES FEWER SERVICES
AND RELIES MORE ON COMMUNITY
PROVIDERS TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF
HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL ILLNESS,
AND OTHER NONCRIMINAL MATTERS.
SO IN THAT RESPECT, THE
MAYOR'S STAFFING PLAN, WHICH
ATTEMPTS TO GET BACK TO 2019
LEVELS COULD CONFLICT WITH THE
COUNCIL'S GOALS AS ARTICULATED
IN THE 2020 SUMMER BUDGET.
AND MY LAST POINT I WAS GOING
TO MAKE, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD ALREADY MADE FOR ME.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE, UM,
THE 2020 SPIKE IN ATTRITION
HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER, THE
DEPARTMENT IS BELOW ITS 1400
FTE LEVEL, AND THEREFORE,
THERE WILL BE MONEY IN 2020.
AND THAT WILL ROLL FORWARD
INTO 2021.
THE MAYOR, THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
USE ALL ITS POLICE SALARY
FUNDING IN 2021 EITHER.
THEY'LL ONLY REACH 1357 FILLED
FTE IN THE FUNDING FOR 1400.
SO THAT WILL ALSO LEAVE THE
COUNCIL WITH, UM, AN OPTION TO
REDUCE FUNDING IN THE 2021
BUDGET TO SORT OF SYNC THE
SALARY BUDGET WITH THAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO DO.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE
DEPARTMENT WOULD, THEIR
PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LEAVE
SOME OF THAT MONEY IN THE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR OVERTIME
SO THEY COULD DO PATROL
AUGMENTATION.
THAT WOULD BE OPPOSED WITH A
NECESSITY THAT MIGHT BE THAT
CHIEF DIAZ WOULD HAVE TO MOVE
MORE OFFICERS FROM SPECIALTY
FUNCTIONS INTO PATROL IF THERE
WASN'T OVERTIME BACK FILL
MONEY AVAILABLE.
I'LL STOP THERE AND ASK IF
THERE'S ANYMORE QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS OR
HEARING ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS
WANTING TO WEIGH IN AT THIS
MOMENT.
>> PATTY, I'LL ASK YOU TO FLIP
TWO SIDES FORWARD TO THE CHART
OF SPD SWORN OFFICERS.
ONE MORE.
THAT ONE, THANK YOU.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS
AN EIGHT YEAR HISTORY OF THE
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS,
SIMILAR TO THE TABLE YOU SAW A
SECOND AGO.
BUT THIS GIVES A VISUAL OF THE
MAYOR'S 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET,
WHERE YOU SEE, STARTING IN
2020, OFFICERS GOING FROM 1295
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS OVER
THE NEXT TWO YEARS UP TO 1,329
OFFICERS.
I ALSO ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TO
MODEL A ONE-YEAR HIRING FREEZE
AS THE COUNCIL HAD EXPRESSED
ITS POLICY PREFERENCE FOR A,
UM, SMALLER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WANTED TO PUT THIS DATA OUT
THERE, HOPEFULLY TO HELP
FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION
ABOUT HOW THE SIZE OF THE
DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE REDUCED.
NOT TO IMPLY THAT ANY COUNCIL
MEMBER ASKED FOR THIS, BUT
JUST TO SHOW WHAT A HIRING
PAUSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE UNDER THE
PURPLE LINE, IF THERE WAS A
ONE-YEAR HIRING PAUSE, THE
AMOUNT OF FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS GOES FROM $12.95
$12.95 AND
DROPS AT THE END OF 2020.
AND THIS IS A LITTLE
COUNTERINTUITIVE.
THE QUESTION BEING WHY WOULD
IT CONTINUE TO DROP FOR
ANOTHER FULL YEAR IF HIRING
PICKED UP.
I TALKED ABOUT HOW IT TAKES A
FULL YEAR TO TRAIN A POLICE
OFFICER, SO IF THE DEPARTMENT
PAUSED IT'S HIRING FOR ONE
YEAR, JUST THROUGH 2021, AND
STARTED HIRING AGAIN ON JAN 1
OF 2022, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO
INCUR ATTRITION LOSSES, BUT
THEY WOULDN'T BE OFFSET BY NEW
OFFICERS BECAUSE THE FULLY
TRAINED ONES WOULDN'T COME ON
BOARD UNTIL 2023.
SO A ONE-YEAR HIRING PAUSE HAS
THE EFFECT OF LOSING TWO YEARS
OF FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS.
HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE,
AND I'LL STOP AND ASK IF
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION,
JUST A, UM, AN OBSERVATION
FROM READING THE STAFFING
REPORTS WE RECEIVE FROM SPD.
JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS IS NOT THE
SAME AS OFFICERS IN SERVICE,
AND AT ANY GIVEN TIME THERE'S
A PRETTY HEFTY CHUNK OF
OFFICERS WHO ARE FULLY
TRAINED, BUT ARE NOT IN
SERVICE FOR A VARIETY OF
ISSUES.
>> YES, THAT'S TRUE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE
OFFICERS OUT ON MILITARY LEAVE
OR EXTENDED SICK LEAVE, AND
THAT WILL DECREASE THE
DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO
DEPLOY.
>> GREG, PLEASE GO AHEAD, DID
YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE ON
THIS SLIDE?
>> UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
THE THING ABOUT A HIRING
FREEZE, IF THE COUNCIL
CONSIDERS THAT, IT SEEMS KIND
OF OBVIOUS, BUT THE WAY THE
REDUCTION WOULD OCCUR IS BY
OFFICERS LEAVING THROUGH
ATTRITION AND GIVEN WHAT WE'VE
SEEN LATELY AROUND NEWER,
YOUNGER OFFICERS LEAVING, UM,
IT SEEMS REASONABLE THAT THOSE
TRENDS WOULD CONTINUE.
IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO
PURSUE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO
REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE FORCE,
BUT HAVE A DIFFERENT EFFECT ON
DEMOGRAPHICS THERE ARE WAYS TO
PURSUE MORE TARGETED
REDUCTIONS.
TARGETED REDUCTIONS COULD BE
ACHIEVED THROUGH OFFICER LAY
OFFS AS WERE CONTEMPLATED IN
THE 2020 MID-YEAR BUDGET, OR
INSTEAD OF PROGRAMS THAT OFFER
CASH BUY OUTS OR RETIREMENT
BENEFITS, SUCH THEY MIGHT
INCLUDE RETIREMENT ENROLLING
IN MEDICAL PLANS OR OTHER
INCENTIVES.
IN TERMS OF LAY OFFS, I THINK
THE COUNCIL IS AWARE THERE'S A
COUPLE OF WAYS THAT COULD
HAPPEN.
THE DEFAULT WOULD BE PSCSC
RULE 15, WHICH WOULD BE, UM,
NEWER, YOUNGER OFFICERS,
REVERSE SENIORITY LAY OFFS,
THE LAST AND SORT OF FIRST
OUT, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A
PROVISION IN THE CIVIL SAFETY
RULES THAT ALLOW FOR OUT OF
ORDER LAY OFFS AS OUTLINED IN
RULE 15B, AND AS YOU KNOW,
THAT WAS THE PREFERENCE THAT
YOU HAD IN COUNCIL BILL 11825.
EACH SCENARIO, WHETHER A
HIRING FREEZE OR
INCENTIVE-BASED PROGRAM WOULD
CREATE FINANCIAL IMPACTS FOR
THE CITY AND WOULD HAVE
DIFFERENT EFFECTS ON THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF OFFICER THAT
REMAIN ON THE FORCE.
SO IT WOULD TAKE MORE STAFF
RESEARCH TO DETERMINE WHAT
KIND OF REDUCTION WOULD MOST
CLOSELY ALIGN WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER GOALS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS?
I'M SEEING NONE.
GREG, I JUST WANT TO ASK, UM,
YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN A NUMBER
OF REPORTS AROUND THE COUNTRY
THAT THIS IS NOT A UNIQUE
SITUATION THAT SEATTLE IS
EXPERIENCING.
THERE HAVE BEEN NOT ONLY
CHIEFS LEAVING VARIOUS
DEPARTMENTS, BUT INDIVIDUAL
OFFICERS AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT
COMPARISON OR HAVE SIMILAR
REPORTS?
>> I'VE SEEN SIMILAR REPORTS,
BUT I'D HAVE TO, UM, I'LL GET
SOME DATA AND SHARE THAT WITH
YOU ALL.
>> SURE, THAT'S HELPFUL, THANK
YOU.
UM, AND IT MIGHT ALSO BE
HELPFUL, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE
TO BE ANY TIME SOON, MAYBE WE
COULD FLAG THIS FOR ONE OF OUR
OFFICES AS I KNOW CENTRAL
STAFF IS VERY BUSY AS WELL,
BUT IF WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT
THE TYPE OF POLICIES THAT
OTHER CITIES ARE LOOKING AT AS
IT RELATES TO SWORN OFFICER
FREEZES, THAT MIGHT BE
HELPFUL.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE
CITY OF AUSTIN HAS DONE.
THEY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE A
HIRING FREEZE ON SWORN
OFFICERS BUT NOT THINGS LIKE
VICTIM SERVICES.
IT MIGHT BE INFORMATIVE TO SEE
WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES WHO
HAVE MUCH LARGER SCALE
TRANSFORMATIVE POLICIES HAVE
PUT IN PLACE ALREADY COMPARING
SEATTLE TO OTHER CITIES ACROSS
THE NATION.
EXCELLENT, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> MOVING ALONG WITH PATROL
STAFFING.
PATTY --
>> HOLD FOR ONE MORE SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON?
>> YES, IT'S CLEAR FROM THIS
TREND THERE ARE DIFFERENT
TOOLS TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF
THE FORCE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING
TO TALK LATER ABOUT WHAT'S THE
OPTIMAL SIZE AND WHAT SHOULD
WE BE MEASURING THAT AGAINST,
IS IT RESPONSE TIMES TO
PRIORITY ONE CALLS FOR
EXAMPLE?
I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT'S AN
INTEREST OF MINE THAT AS WE
SEE THE NUMBER GOING DOWN, AT
WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME
ALARMING IN THAT WE'RE GOING
TO BE LOSING SOMETHING ELSE WE
MIGHT VALUE LIKE QUICK
RESPONSE TO PRIORITY ONE
CALLS.
>> WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION
INTO A TOPIC WITH PATROL
STAFFING HERE THAT WILL, THAT
HAS A NEXUS WITH WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
SHALL I MOVE ON?
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THANK
YOU.
>> PATTY COULD YOU GO BACK TWO
SIDES, PLEASE?
PERFECT.
THAT'S FINE.
OKAY, SO UM, THIS IS THE
PRECINCT STAFFING REPORT AS OF
THE END OF AUGUST.
WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THE VARIOUS
JOB CATEGORIES FOR PATROL.
TALKING AT PATROL, IT FALLS
INTO TWO CATEGORIES.
ONE OF THE 911 RESPONSE, THAT
YOU SEE THERE IN THE FIRST
ROW.
AND THAT'S DISPROPORTIONATELY
HIGHER THAN THE REST.
THE OTHER ARE SPECIALTY PATROL
UNITS THAT, UM, HANDLE
DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROBLEM.
THE ANTI-CRIME TEAM, THE
COMMUNITY POLICE TEAM, THE
BEATS LINE THERE IS OFFICERS
ON FOOT BEATS OR BIKE BEATS.
THEY CAN BE DEPLOYED BY
DISPATCH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE
THE CAD, SO THEY'RE NOT
RESPONDING TO 911 CALLS IN THE
SAME WAY THAT THE 911 FOLKS
ARE.
I POINT THIS OUT AS YOU CAN
SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF 911
RESPONDERS AT THE END OF
AUGUST WAS 563.
AND, UM, I WOULD GOAHEAD AND
ASK PATTY TO FLIP TO THE NEXT
SLIDE.
THIS NEXT ONE IS AT THE END OF
SEPTEMBER.
AND THE REASON I POINT THIS
OUT IS BECAUSE THIS REFLECTS
THE CHANGE THAT CHIEF DIAZ
MADE OF 100 OFFICERS AND
MOVING 100 OFFICERS INTO
PATROL.
AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS
THAT IT BOOSTS THE PATROL
NUMBER, OR, I'M SORRY, THE 911
RESPONDER NUMBER, BY ABOUT
105.
BUT THE OVERALL PATROL NUMBER,
THE GRAND TOTAL AT THE BOTTOM,
ONLY GOES UP BY 17.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE PART OF
WHAT THE CHIEF HAS DONE IS HE
IS MOVED THE, HE'S ELIMINATED
THE CPT ALL TOGETHER AND HAS
TAKEN FOLKS OUT OF THE OTHER
CATEGORIES, THE ACT AND THE
BEATS AND MOVED THEM INTO 911
RESPONSE.
AND THE REASON HE'S DONE THIS
IS BECAUSE HE HAS INDICATED
BOTH PUBLICLY, UM, AND ALSO IN
Q AND A WITH COUNCIL'S
QUESTIONS THAT IMPROVING
RESPONSE TIMES TO 911 CALLS
IS, UM, IS HIS TOP PRIORITY,
AND THAT REDUCING THE
DEPARTMENT'S RELIANCE ON
OVERTIME PAY AND PROVIDING
STRESS RELEASE TO OFFICERS
GOING FROM CALL TO CALL IS HIS
TOP PRIORITY.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO A HIRING
FREEZE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, HIS PRIORITY DOES NOT
CHANGE.
HE WAS ASKED BY STAFF AS TO
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE WAS
THE KIND OF DRASTIC
RE REDUCTION
YOU SAW IN THE PRIOR CHARTS,
AND HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT HE'D
CONTINUE TO DO MORE OF THE
SAME.
HE WOULD REDUCE SPECIALTY
UNITS, FURTHER REDUCE
SPECIALTY UNITS, AND BACK FILL
PATROL LOSSES IN AN EFFORT TO
ENSURE THAT 911 RESPONSE IS AS
ROBUST AS IT IS TODAY.
AND SO JUST TAKING THAT
POSITION AND, UM,
EXTRAPOLATING IF THE HIRING
FREEZE WERE TO HAPPEN, AND THE
PATROL WAS HELD CONSTANT AT
694, UM, THEN WHAT THAT WOULD
MEAN IS YOU WOULD BE REDUCING,
THE CHIEF WOULD BE REDUCING
OFFICERS IN SPECIALTY UNITS BY
ABOUT 82 OFFICERS BY THE END
OF 2022.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON, I
THINK THAT GETS TO YOUR
QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS
AROUND RESPONSE TIMES.
THE ANSWER IS THAT THEY
PROBABLY DON'T CHANGE, BUT
MEASURES OF SPECIALTY UNITS,
WHETHER IT BE SWAT OR HARBOR
PATROL OR K9, THOSE WOULD BE
THE UNITS IMPACTED THE MOST BY
A FREEZE OF POLICE HIRING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES?
>> YES, THANK YOU, GREG, THIS
IS ALL REALLY HELPFUL.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE ON PAGE
8 OF THE MEMO WITH THIS CHART,
BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR THE
PURPOSE OF MY QUESTION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTAND THIS.
I KNOW IN YOUR MEMO AND THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH
INTERIM CHIEF DIAZ, UM, HE'S
MADE CLEAR SPD PRIORITIZES
INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC
OVER INVESTIGATION, DETECTIVE
WORK, AT LEAST THAT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM,
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT
METRICS THERE ARE FOR
PREVENTING CRIME AND
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC.
DO YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE,
ASIDE FROM 911 RESPONSE TEAM,
THIS DEMONSTRATES THE USE OF
RESOURCES OVER DETECTIVE AND
INVESTIGATIVE WORK?
>> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT THERE IS REALLY WHEN
YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE WORLD
OF COMMUNITY POLICING AND THE
IMPACT THAT COMMUNITY POLICING
HAS ON PREVENTING CRIME AS
OPPOSED TO RESPONDING TO
CRIME.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
DR. FISHER WOULD PROBABLY BE
MORE SUITED TO ANSWER.
>> I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE IF
THE NEED FOR MORE PATROL
OFFICERS DEMONSTRATED OR
DETERMINED BY THE NEED TO
MAINTAIN THIS RESPONSE TIME
MEASURE, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY
THAT IS THE MEASURE OF HOW WE
MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
IS THAT THE METRIC USED FOR
DETERMINING HOW MANY PATROL
OFFICERS WE NEED?
>> YEAH, THAT IS ACTUALLY, UM,
THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE METRIC
THAT THE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT
IS RESPONSE TIMES.
THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN RESPONSE
TIMES WHERE THEY ARE NOW, AND
IN THE BACK OF THE MEMO YOU'LL
FIND AN APPENDIX THAT HAS
RESPONSE TIMES ACROSS THE
CITY, AND THEN ALSO IT HAS TO
DO WITH THE PROACTIVE TIME AN
OFFICER HAS AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE
RESPONSE TIMES, BUT IT'S ABOUT
MAKING SURE THERE ARE ENOUGH
OFFICERS IN PATROL THAT THEY
CAN ACHIEVE GOALS RELATED TO
COMMUNITY POLICING.
HERE AGAIN, THAT'S INTERFACING
WITH THE COMMUNITY AND DOING
PROBLEM SOLVING TO TRY AND
PREVENT CRIME.
SPD HOPE TO HAVE 40% OF PATROL
OFFICERS TIME AVAILABLE FOR
COMMUNITY POLICING
HISTORICALLY, FOR INTERFACING
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT WOULD BE A MEASURE
THAT THEY'RE HOPING FOR WITH
THE 911 OFFICERS.
THE ACT, CPT, AND BEATS,
OBVIOUSLY, ARE MORE FOCUSED ON
COMMUNITY POLICING AND
INTERACTION.
BUT IT'S THOSE METRICS THAT
ARE DRIVING, UM, THE NUMBERS
IN PATROL, YES.
>> WELL, AND I, SORRY, CHAIR,
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE
QUESTIONS.
I'M TRYING TO GET CLEAR ON
SOMETHING BECAUSE LOOKING BACK
AT THE 911 CALL ANALYSIS THAT
WE HAD, UM, THAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT FROM JULY 8th,
UM, THE TOP 15 TYPES OF CALLS
RECEIVED AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
UM, AT LEAST THE WAY THEY WERE
FINALLY CLASSIFIED, ONLY FOUR
WERE CLASSIFIED AS STRAIGHT
CRIMES.
UM, TRESPASS, THEFT, OR
SHOPLIFTING OR OTHER KINDS OF
THEFT, AND ASSAULT.
IF I'M READING THE GRAPH
RIGHT, THIS MAKES UP ABOUT 11%
OF THE 911 CALLS.
I'M SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THIS
IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT THAT'S
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AND
RECALLING FROM OUR JULY
MEETING.
AND OF THOSE 15 TYPES, ONLY
ONE IS A PRIORITY CALL IF I
UNDERSTAND THIS, ASSAULT IS A
PRIORITY ONE CALL.
SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE USING
911 CALL RESPONSE TIME AS A
MEASURE FOR HOW MANY PATROL
OFFICERS WE NEED, BUT ONLY 11%
OF THE 911 CALLS ARE CRIMES
ANYWAY, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO
ME, AND IT'S POSSIBLE I'M NOT
UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT.
WHY ARE WE USING THAT AS A
MEASURE OF HOW MANY OFFICERS
WE NEED WHEN, IN FACT, WHAT
WE'VE LEARNED, IS THAT MOST OF
THE 911 CALLS ARE
DISTURBANCES.
MAYBE IT'S TRESPASSING OR
THINGS THAT AREN'T CATEGORIZED
AS PRIORITY ONE CALLS.
>> YEAH, I COMPLETELY
UNDERSTAND --
>> GO AHEAD.
>> I DON'T HAVE THE
INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.
FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT,
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IF
YOU'RE LOOKING AT CALLS WITH A
FINAL DETERMINATION, THEN THEY
MAY HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED UNDER
A DIFFERENT DETERMINATION.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME
VARIANCE THERE.
BUT CERTAINLY NOT MEANING IN
ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM TO ARGUE
WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT
ARE POLICE THE BEST RESPONSE
FOR, UM, CALLS THAT ARE NOT
CRIMINAL.
>> WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT
WHY PATROL INSTEAD OF
DETECTIVES THAT MIGHT BE USED
FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING OR THEFT
RINGS FOR ANY OF THE OTHER
FUNCTIONS A MEMBER OF THE
FORCE MIGHT SERVE?
WHAT ARE THE METRICS FOR
DETERMINING HOW MANY OFFICERS
WE NEED IN THOSE FUNCTIONS?
I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH WHY
SO MANY, ESPECIALLY WHEN
COMMUNITY IS SAYING THEY WANT
LESS DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE
POLICE FOR REASONS OF HARM
THAT COULD BE CAUSED, UM, AND
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER
KINDS OF, UM, ACTIVITY THAT
CERTAINLY COULD USE SOME
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW
THAT DECISION MAKING HELPS THE
COMMUNITY BEST.
>> I UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S
REALLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, I
THINK THE CHIEF WOULD BE IN A
BETTER POSITION TO EXPLAIN.
I KNOW THERE ARE SPECIFIC
MEASURES FOR ALL OF THE, UM,
VARIOUS KINDS OF UNITS YOU
MENTIONED, AND HE'D BE IN A
BETTER POSITION TO EXPLAIN WHY
HE WOULD DEPLOY IN THE MANNER
HE'S CHOOSING.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU, GREG.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES, JUST A WRAP UP BEFORE
I ASK MY QUESTION ON THAT LAST
POINT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES.
I'M REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
CHIEF TRYING TO REDEPLOY TO
ADDRESS THE GREATEST NEEDS OF
THE DEPARTMENT AND OF THE CITY
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, AND EVEN
USING 911 AS A MEASURE, BUT I
WOULD ALSO ASK THAT ANOTHER
LEVEL OF ANALYSIS BE INCLUDED
WHEN REDEPLOYING FOR QUICKER
911 RESPONSE JUST AS COUNCIL
MEMBER MORALES IS SAYING.
IT'S JUST A RECOGNITION THAT
ALL 911 CALLS ARE NOT EQUAL.
AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A
NUMBER, A MINUTE NUMBER ON
RESPONDING TO A 911 CALL, WE
MAY NOT, IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE
THE SAME NUMBER OF MINUTES FOR
EVERY KIND OF 911 CALL, AND
THERE MAY BE SOME 911 CALLS
THAT WE SHOULDN'T, UM, THINK
OF THIS REEMPLOYMENT OF PATROL
OFFICERS TO 911 TO ANSWER
NECESSARILY MORE CALLS.
I MEAN, THAT'S AGAIN, IT'S NOT
CLEAR TO ME, UM, WHETHER OR
NOT THE CHIEF WANTS TO JUST
FOCUS ON ANSWERING THE
PRIORITY ONE CALLS MORE
QUICKLY, OR IF IT'S A
COMBINATION OF ANSWERING THE
PRIORITY ONE CALLS QUICKLY, AS
WELL AS OTHER PRIORITY CALLS
QUICKLY, AND MAYBE EVEN
ANSWERING CALLS THAT WE'RE NOT
ANSWERING NOW AT ALL.
THAT 911 OPERATORS ARE SAYING
SORRY, THIS IS A PRIORITY
THREE OR FOUR CALL, WE WON'T
GET TO THAT CALL.
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME,
ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID, I
SUPPORT THAT LENS, BUT IT'S
NOT CLEAR TO ME HOW IT'S BEING
APPLIED.
AND AGAIN, WHETHER OR NOT
WE'RE JUST TREATING EVERYTHING
UNDER 911 QUALITY.
TO MY QUESTION, IT'S STILL ON
THIS TOPIC, AND IT'S, UM, I
THINK IT'S PERHAPS OUT OF THE
UMBRELLA OF A BUDGET ISSUE,
BUT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN
TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT A
LOT ABOUT THIS TOPIC OF
REEMPLOYMENT TO 911 I'M
WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT, UM,
IN THEIR REDEPLOYMENT FROM
SPECIALTY UNITS TO PATROL,
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE HAD, TO
911 PATROL, WHETHER OR NOT
YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ASK HOW THEY CHOSE THE
SPECIALTY UNITS THEY CHOSE?
I'M STILL CONFUSED TO AS, FOR
INSTANCE, WHY THEY'VE REDUCED
THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ELDER
CARE SPECIALTY UNIT TO ONLY
ONE PERSON.
I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY THEY
DIDN'T REDUCE THE SPECIALTY
UNITS THE COUNCIL IDENTIFIED
AS PRIORITIES FOR REDUCTION
DURING THE 2020 BUDGET
PROCESS.
WHY DO WE NEED A HORSE PATROL?
WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE DONE
REDUCTIONS IN HARBOR PATROL?
THERE ARE, WHERE DID THE
NAVIGATION TEAM OFFICERS GO?
IT DOESN'T APPEAR THEY'VE BEEN
REDEPLOYED TO PATROL, BUT
THEY'RE NOT ON THE NAVIGATION
TEAM ANYMORE?
JUST WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT
YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO
THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ABOUT
REDEPLOYMENTS.
>> WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE
DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED
WITH THE CHIEF THAT HE'S
TALKED ABOUT, UM, RETURNING TO
HISTORIC LEVELS OF STAFFING IN
SOME OF THE SPECIALTY UNITS
THAT HE HAS DONE AN ANALYSIS
OF CASE LOADS TO TRY AND
DETERMINE WHERE THERE'S
CAPACITY.
HE'S LOOKED AT FOLKS THAT WERE
ON LOAN FROM OTHER UNITS AND
PATROL REALLY, AND RETURNED
THEM.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HE'S
SAID.
FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY
PERSPECTIVE ON WHY ONE UNIT
WAS CHOSEN OVER ANOTHER, I
CAN'T SPECULATE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WILL ALSO JUST FLAG HERE,
AND SORRY IF THIS IS THROWING
US A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT IN
LINE WITH THE CONVERSATION
THEY WERE HAVING OVER HOW DO
WE BEST DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES
FOR THE NUMBER OF CALLS COMING
INTO 911, I DO WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE THINGS I
HEARD AT THE HEALTH ONE RIDE
ALONG TOUR WAS THE SIMPLE ACT
OF HAVING A REGISTERED NURSE
AT THE 911 CALL CENTER COULD
HELP ADDRESS MANY OF THE CALLS
THEY RECEIVE AND REDUCE THE
NEED FOR MANY OF THE PATROL
OFFICERS TO BE IN THE FIELD.
MANY OF THE RECALLS THEY
RECEIVE WITH MEDICAL IN
NATURE, AND MANY OF THE CALLS
THEY RECEIVE ARE ALSO PEOPLE
WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT
SOMETHING MEDICALLY RELATED,
AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE
THERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION
COULD BE HELPFUL.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT IN
THERE.
I THINK THE RIGHT NUMBER
DEPENDS ON HOW MANY CALLS
WE'RE TELLING OFFICERS THEY
NEED TO RESPOND TO IN PERSON.
I DON'T HAVE A FORM A IN ON
THAT ITEM, BUT DO WANT TO FLAG
THAT IT'S SOMETHING I'M STILL
INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO THE
POSSIBILITY OF REGISTERED
NURSE OR, UM, ARNP.
SOME WAY TO OFFER A TRIAGE
SYSTEM LIKE A CONSULTING NURSE
BEHIND THE SCENES AND I DON'T
KNOW IF OTHER CITIES HAVE
SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT WE'LL
CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SLIDE
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD?
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD.
>> PATTY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
TAKING ME TO THE OPTION SLIDE
FOR ISSUE ONE.
HOPEFULLY IT'S THERE.
MY SCREEN HAS NOW BLACKED OUT.
BUT THE OPTIONS STAFF HAVE
IDENTIFIED HERE WITH THE TOPIC
OF SWORN STAFFING, THE FIRST
ONE IS TO REDUCE SPD'S BUDGET
TO CAPTURE THE UNNEEDED
FUNDING IN THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE 1357 AVERAGE FTE THAT THEY
CAN FILL, AND THE 1400 FOR
WHICH THEY'RE FUNDED.
OPTION B WOULD BE TO REDUCE
THE BUDGET TO REFLECT A
ONE-YEAR HIRING FREEZE.
OPTION C IS TO REDUCE SPD'S
BUDGET TO REFLECT SOME SORT OF
TARGETED, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC
REDUCTION THAT MIGHT COME
THROUGH A BUY OUT OR
RETIREMENT INCENTIVE.
SUCH A, UM, TARGETED REDUCTION
COULD REQUIRE SEPARATE
BARGAINING.
AND THE LAST WOULD BE TO
PROVISO SPD'S BUDGET LIKE WAS
DONE IN 2020, THIS YEAR, TO
RESTRICT FUNDING THAT MIGHT
NOT BE NEEDED IF LAY OFFS WERE
IMPLEMENTED IN 2021 EITHER
UNDER THE PSCS RULE THAT
ALLOWS FOR OUT OF ORDER LAY
OFFS OR THE DEFAULT, WHICH
WOULD BE SENIORITY-BASED LAY
OFFS.
OPTION E IS NO ACTION.
>> I SEE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
OH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, GO
AHEAD.
>> CHAIR, MOSQUEDA, I FORGET
WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
DOING WHEN CENTRAL STAFF
IDENTIFIES OPTIONS.
DO YOU WANT US TO SPEAK TO
THEM OR JUST LET THEM GO
THROUGH THEM AND WE FOLLOW UP
LATER?
>> I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU SPEAK
TO THEM.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE, IF YOU HAVE
AN ITEM THAT CORRESPONDS WITH
WHAT THE CENTRAL STAFF IS
ARTICULATING, I'M ASKING YOU
TO HOLD THAT FOR THE FORM A
WALK THROUGH, BUT IN CASES
LIKE THIS AND IN PREVIOUS
PRESENTATIONS WHERE CENTRAL
STAFF ARE IDENTIFYING AREAS
THAT DON'T HAVE A COUNCIL
MEMBER NAME ASSOCIATED WITH
ONE OF THE OPTIONS, IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN, WE'D
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT TO
HEAR WHERE YOU MIGHT BE COMING
FROM OR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
SO I HAVE, I WOULDN'T CALL IT
A CORRESPONDING OPTION, IT'S
RELATED, BUT UNDER, I THINK
ISSUE 3 OR COUNCIL IDENTIFIED
ACTION 3, UM, I HAVE AN
INTENDED REDUCTION TO ABREGATE
POSITIONS AND CAPTURE THE
FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE
POSITIONS VACANT.
I SEE OPTION A AS KIND OF
BEING A BETTER VERSION OF THAT
BECAUSE OF, I MEAN, AS IT
RELATES TO THE SALARY SAVINGS,
BECAUSE OF THIS NEWLY
IDENTIFIED ISSUE THAT WAS
IDENTIFIED AFTER OUR DEADLINE
TO SUBMIT FORM A.
SO I AM INTERESTED IN OPTION A
HERE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD FOR NOTING THAT.
OKAY, LET'S CONTINUE.
I DON'T SEE ADDITIONAL HANDS.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL MOVE TO
OVERTIME REDUCTIONS, THE
EMPHASIS PATROLS, AND SPECIAL
EVENTS.
PATTY, IF YOU WOULD MOVE INTO
ISSUE TWO PLEASE.
I'LL ASSUME YOU'RE THERE
BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE THE SLIDE.
THERE'S A $2.7 MILLION
REDUCTION IN OVERTIME, AND
THIS HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL
EVENTS AND EMPHASIS PATROLS.
I BELIEVE THE SLIDE YOU'RE
LOOKING AT IS PROBABLY THE
OVERTIME BUDGET FOR SPD.
IS THAT THE CASE?
>> SORRY, YES, THAT'S WHAT THE
SLIDE SHOWS.
>> GREAT, GREAT.
SO THEN WHAT WE HAVE IS ALL
THE BUREAUS OF SPD THERE, AND
THEN THERE'S A LAST COLUMN.
I THINK THAT THIS IS
MISCELLANEOUS.
OH, I THINK I HAVE IT BACK.
YES.
SO YOU SEE SEATTLE CENTER
EVENTS, SPORTING EVENTS,
UNUSUAL OCCURRENCES, EMPHASIS
PATROLS, EXECUTIVE SECURITY,
AND YOUTH DEPLOYMENT.
THE LAST SEVERAL ROWS I JUST
READ OUT ARE ALL SUB
CATEGORIES OF THE
MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY, AND
THE REASON I HIGHLIGHT THEM IS
TO SHOW YOU THAT, UM, THE
EMPHASIS PATROL ROW IS ZEROED
OUT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE
EVENTS, EVENTS AT SEATTLE
CENTER AND SPORTING EVENTS
AMOUNTS ARE APPROXIMATELY
1.3 MILLION LOWER THAN THEY
WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD THE
EXECUTIVE NOT MADE THE
REDUCTION.
AND WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT
TO RECOGNIZE ABOUT THE SPECIAL
EVENTS REDUCTION IS THAT IT IS
BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT
EVENTS WILL NOT HAPPEN AT THE
SAME RATE AS THE LAST YEARS
DUE TO COVID.
SO IT BECOMES MORE OF A
TECHNICAL REDUCTION.
THIS IS NOT AN EFFORT BY THE
DEPARTMENT TO SHRINK ITS
FOOTPRINT AT SPECIAL EVENTS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT
THE DEPARTMENT WILL DEPLOY
FEWER PEOPLE TO EVENTS, WHEN
EVENTS START HAPPENING AGAIN,
THEY'LL DEPLOY THE SAME NUMBER
OF PEOPLE AND THE SAME MIX OF
PEOPLE BETWEEN PEOS AND
OFFICERS.
ONLY THE REASON THERE'S A
REDUCTION HERE IS BECAUSE OF
COVID.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SPD IS
PLANNING ON SPENDING
$5.8 MILLION IN GENERAL
EVENTS, AND THOSE ARE LARGELY
EVENTS LIKE FUN RUNS, PARADES,
NEIGHBORHOOD FESTIVALS.
YOU MAY BE AWARE THE COST OF
REIMBURSEMENT ON THESE KINDS
OF EVENTS IS NOT GOOD.
A 2017 STUDY BY THE AUDITOR
FOUND THE COST FOR PERMITTED
EVENTS RANGED AROUND 27%.
THIS IS IN CONTRAST TO THE
COST RECOVERY ON SPORTING
EVENTS, WHICH FOR TRAFFIC
REPORTS IS PRETTY MUCH NEAR
COST RECOVERY.
THERE ARE SOME SPORTING EVENTS
THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD COST.
THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH PUBLIC
SAFELY PATROLS IN PIONEER
SQUARES AFTER THE GAMES OR
ADDITIONAL DUI PATROLS.
THE SEAHAWKS AND OTHER
SPORTING TEAMS DON'T PAY FOR
THOSE.
THAT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY
FUNCTION THAT IS AT THE
DEPARTMENT'S EXPENSE.
WOULD POINT OUT THAT THOSE
REDUCTIONS ARE MADE BUT THAT
IS
WHAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS DUE
TO COVID.
THERE'S A 1.4 MILLION
REDUCTION OF THE 2.7 IF THE
DEPARTMENT HAD MADE A
REDUCTION, YOU'D SEE
1.4 MILLION IN THE EMPHASIS
PATROLS.
YOU HAVE THE REGULAR EMPHASIS
PATROLS THAT OCCUR SEASONALLY
LIKE THE PATROLLING OF ALKI
DURING THE SUMMER AND THE
DOWNTOWN PATROLS DURING THE
CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SEASON.
AND THEN YOU HAVE EMPHASIS
PATROLS DONE TO REDUCE
VIOLENCE OR GUN CRIMES.
THOSE KIND OF EMPHASIS, THE
LATTER KIND, THE CHIEF HAS
INDICATED THAT HE IS GOING TO
CONTINUE TO DO AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE USING WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT CALLS DIRECT
PATROL, WHICH IS BASICALLY A
DETERMINE OF BRINGING IN 911
RESPONDERS, HAVING YOUR 911
RESPONDERS GO TO THAT AREA AND
SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME IN THE
AREA ON REGULAR TIME.
SO NOT ANY ADDITIONAL EMPHASIS
PER SAY OTHER THAN THE 911
RESPONDERS IN THAT AREA WOULD
SPEND SPECIAL ATTENTION ON
SOME AREAS THAT MIGHT HAVE
VIOLENT CRIME OR GUN CRIME.
THEN I'D WRAP UP THE SECTION
BY JUST TALKING ABOUT EMPHASIS
PATROL.
ADVOCATES WOULD SAY THAT HELPS
PREVENT CRIME SUCH AS THROUGH
COMMUNITY POLICING.
OPPONENTS NOTE THAT EMPHASIS
PATROLS SHOW HOW OVERPOLICING
TARGET PEOPLE OF COLOR AND
ULTIMATE RESULT IS AN ENTRY
INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM THAT RUINS LIVES AND
PERPETUATES RACISM.
OFFICERS MORE REGULARLY STOP
AND DRAW THEIR WEAPONS ON
PEOPLE OF COLOR, EVEN THOUGH
GUNS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE
FOUND ON WHITE PEOPLE STOPPED.
THIS DATA WOULD SEEM TO
SUPPORT A CONCLUSION THAT
EMPHASIS PATROLS COULD
DISPROPORTIONALLY DRAW PEOPLE
OF COLOR INTO THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, SO THESE ARE
CONSIDERATIONS THE DEPARTMENT
MAY HAVE MADE AND COUNCIL MAY
MAKE AROUND WHETHER OR NOT
EMPHASIS PATROLS SHOULD BE
RESTORED.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THERE'S ZERO
LINE ITEM FOR 2020, BUT AS YOU
SAID, IT COULD MEAN THAT
EMPHASIS PATROL IS BEING DONE
IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE
DATA OR THE DEPARTMENT HAS
DATA TO HELP US UNDERSTAND
WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE FOR
2019?
AS I UNDERSTAND, AS YOU'VE
INDICATED IN YOUR MEMO, UM, WE
HAD 20,000 HOURS OF OVERTIME
THAT PAID $1.6 MILLION LAST
YEAR JUST FOR THE EMPHASIS
PATROLS.
I'D BE VERY CURIOUS TO HEAR
THE OUTCOMES OF THAT AND WOULD
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT BOUGHT
US.
IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT, UM, CHANGED RATES OF
CRIME OR HOW TO DETERMINE WHAT
WAS PREVENTED, I WOULD BE VERY
INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT.
>> AND THE DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS
A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.
THEY PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTE A NUMBER OF
OUTPUT INDICATORS.
THE NUMBER OF FOLKS CONTACTED,
THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WERE
GIVEN INFECTIONS, THE NUMBER
OF FOLKS THAT WERE CONTACTED
BUT NOT GIVEN INFRACTIONS.
I THINK YOU HIT ON THE SALIENT
POINT WHICH IS WHAT IS THE
OUTCOME.
>> YES, I'M INTERESTED IN THE
OUTCOMES WE HAVE FOR OUR
NEIGHBORS.
I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH
DR. FISHER, THANK YOU.
>> AND ONE MORE THING I'D ADD,
THE DEPARTMENT CAN ALSO SHOW
CRIME CHANGES OVER THE COURSE
OF THE EMPHASIS PATROLS AND
ITS MICROCOMMUNITY CRIME
REPORTING.
BUT HERE AGAIN, IT'S DIFFICULT
TO DRAW A DIRECT NEXUS.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LEAVE TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS TO
TALK ABOUT.
THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO MORE
EASILY DRAW THE NEXUS.
I HAVE SOME OPTIONS FOR THIS
SECTION --
>> ONE SECOND.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
HAS A COMMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
AND IT MIGHT BE COVERED IN ONE
OF THE OPTIONS.
I HAVE NOT MEMORIZED THE MEMO
AS WELL AS I SHOULD, I'M
SORRY.
I'M CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE ABOUT THE SIZE OF
THE REDUCTION IN OVERTIME FOR
THE YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF TIME
IT'S INTENDED TO COVER.
AN UNDER $3 MILLION IN
REDUCTION IN OVERTIME FOR THE
WHOLE OF 2021, UM, HOW IS IT
THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM
THE EXECUTIVE DURING OUR
REBALANCING AN $8 MILLION, UM,
OVERTIME REDUCTION FOR JUST A
FEW MONTHS OF 2020.
IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WERE ABLE
TO GET 8 MILLION OUT OF FOUR
MONTHS OF 2020, WE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET A BIGGER NUMBER
THAN 2.7 OUT OF ALL OF 2021.
ALSO, UM, AS IT RELATED TO THE
DECISION, UM, OF CHIEF DIAZ TO
DO THE REDEPLOYMENT OF
OFFICERS IN SPECIALTY UNITS TO
PATROL, SORRY TO GO BACK TO
THAT ISSUE, ONE OF THE OTHER
BENEFITS THAT CHIEF DIAZ HAS
SAID THAT, UM, THIS TSA
TRANSFER WOULD ACCOMPLISH IS A
FURTHER REDUCTION OF OVERTIME,
AND I HAVE ASKED FOR A
PROJECTION OR ANALYSIS THAT
WOULD SHOW HOW MANY FEWER
HOURS OF OVERTIME WE WOULD
ANTICIPATE FOR THIS TRANSFER
AND HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED THAT
INFORMATION.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, GREG.
>> I HAVEN'T, AND I UNDERSTAND
YOUR POINT.
IT MAY BE THE DEPARTMENT IS
TRYING TO RESERVE, UM, TO BE
CONSERVATIVE IN ITS ESTIMATE
IN CASE EVENTS START UP
EARLIER, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT,
THEY SEEM DISPROPORTIONATE.
>> OKAY, I'M NOT SEEING
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
GREG?
>> OKAY, SO THE OPTIONS FOR
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, UM,
CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNCIL'S
OPTION A, CONSISTENT WITH THE
COUNCIL'S STATED POLICY INTENT
TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE
POLICE FORCE, FURTHER REDUCE
SPD'S OVERTIME BUDGET FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS EITHER BECAUSE
OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
MENTIONED BECAUSE THERE MIGHT
BE MORE ROOM FOR REDUCTION OR
BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT
TO SHRINK THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
DEPARTMENT AT SPECIAL EVENTS,
AND THEN LASTLY MAYBE TO
IMPROVE COST RECOVERY.
OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S FEWER
FOLKS DEPLOYED, THERE'S A GOOD
CHANCE THAT COST RECOVERY GOES
UP.
OPTION B WOULD BE TO INCREASE
SPD'S OVERTIME BUDGET FOR
EMPHASIS PATROLS TO REINSTATE
THE SEASONAL PATROLS AROUND
ALKI OR DOWNTOWN AT CHRISTMAS
OR FOR TARGETED ANTI-VIOLENCE
AND GUN VIOLENCE, AND OPTION C
IS NO ACTION.
>> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> JUST FLAGGING THAT, UM, I
DO HAVE A BUDGET ACTION THAT
RELATES TO ANNUALIZING THE
COUNCIL'S BUDGET ACTIONS FROM
2020 AND CARRYING THEM FORWARD
TO 2021.
IT DOES NOT COVER THIS ISSUE
OF OVERTIME BECAUSE I DON'T
THINK THE COUNCIL TOOK ACTION
ON OVERTIME, WE DIDN'T DO
FURTHER REDUCTIONS BECAUSE THE
EXECUTIVE HAD PROPOSED A
SIGNIFICANT, I THINK
SATISFACTORY FOR THAT MOMENT
OF TIME FOR THE REMAINDER OF
2020.
I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT
THE ASSUMPTIONS WERE FOR 2020
AND LOOK AT ANNUALIZING THE
ASSUMPTIONS OVER 2021 TO
REALIZE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS IN
THE OVERTIME BUDGET.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO FIND OUT
FROM CHIEF DIAZ WHAT HIS
ASSUMPTIONS ARE, UM, AROUND
THE REDUCTION IN OVERTIME
ASSOCIATED WITH HIS TRANSFERS
TO PATROL.
>> THANK YOU FOR FLAGGING
THAT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT
CONVERSATION AS WELL ABOUT
ADDRESSING OVERTIME IN
GENERAL.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY ABOUT THIS
ISSUE.
>> LET ME SAY, THE ONE YOU'RE
USING TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC
OFFICE
OFFICERS IN A WAY THAT'S
TRIGGERING MORE OVERTIME
USAGE, I THINK THAT WILL BE
HELPFUL.
IS THAT FAIR?
>> UM, I'M NOT SURE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WE'LL GET TO IT.
>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER
YOU SEE MY FORM AS.
>> SOUND GOOD.
>> SO SHOULD I MOVE ON HERE TO
THE 2020 MID-YEAR REDUCTIONS?
THIS IS ISSUE THREE.
AND OF COURSE WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING HERE IS THE TABLE OF
PERSONNEL REDUCTIONS THAT WERE
MADE IN JULY 2020.
THE COUNCIL MADE APPROXIMATELY
3 MILLION IN REDUCTIONS TO THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
SOME WERE PERSONNEL-RELATED
THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE
SCREEN AND SOME NOT.
SOME REDUCTIONS WERE MADE
THROUGH DIRECT CUTS AND OTHERS
WERE MADE THROUGH PROVISOS
THAT RESTRICTED APD'S ABILITY
TO SPEND APPROPRIATIONS
WITHOUT FURTHER AUTHORIZATION.
SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS INDICATED
THE CUTS MAY BE ANNUALIZED AND
CONTINUED IN THE 2021 BUDGET,
WHICH IS WHY I IDENTIFIED THIS
AS A PARTICULAR ISSUE.
AS PART OF THE CUTS IN 2020,
THE COUNCIL EXPRESSED INTEREST
IN ELIMINATING 100 SWORN
POSITIONS THROUGH LAY OFFS AND
TARGET SPECIFIC UNITS OR
PERSONNEL, 38 POSITIONS IN
TOTAL.
GENERAL LAY OFFS INTO PATROL
OR JUST IN GENERAL, AND THOSE
WERE 32 POSITIONS IN TOTAL.
AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT
ATTRITION WOULD EXCEED
EXECUTIVE PROJECTIONS FOR
ANOTHER 30 POSITIONS.
OBVIOUSLY THAT LAST ONE HAS
HAPPENED.
THE 20 REDUCTIONS WERE MADE
VIA PROVISO THAT RESTRICTED
FURTHER SPENDING UNTIL COUNCIL
MAKES AUTHORIZATION.
THE COUNCIL TOOK THAT APPROACH
INSTEAD OF A DIRECT CUT
BECAUSE THE LAY OFFS MAY NOT
OCCUR IN 2020 DUE TO TIMING
AND PROCESS CONSIDERATIONS
AROUND LAY OFFS, PARTICULARLY
AROUND BARGAINING.
AS IT TURNS OUT, THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, AND THE
LAY OFFS ARE NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN IN 2020.
BECAUSE THE LAY OFFS ARE NOT
HAPPENING IN 2020, THE MAYOR
INDICATED IT'S HER INTENT TO
TRANSMIT PROPOSED LEGISLATION
TO LIFT THE PROVISOS THE
COUNCIL PUT IN PLACE.
THE VALUE OF THE SALARY AND
BENEFITS YOU SEE IN THE TABLE
IS BASED UPON THE ASSUMPTION
THAT LAY OFFS WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH PCSC RULE 15A
WHICH IS SORT OF THE DEFAULT
WHEN LAY OFFS ARE MADE THROUGH
REVERSE SENIORITY ORDER.
HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL DID
PREFERENCE OR MAYBE A
PREFERENCE FOR, UM, OUT OF
ORDER LAY OFFS, WHICH IS
ALLOWED BY PSCS RULE 15B
ALLOWING THE CHIEF TO MAKE OUT
OF ORDER LAY OFFS FOR REASONS
OF EFFICIENT OPERATIONS OF THE
DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE
PROVISOS IN BILL 1825.
OTHER SUMMER BUDGET CHANGES
INCLUDED MORE DIRECT
APPROPRIATION CUTS.
THERE WAS A CUT TO THE
RECRUITMENT INITIATIVE THAT
INCLUDED 200,000 FOR HIRING
BONUSES THAT WERE IN THE 2021
BUDGET THAT STAFF WAS TOLD
WOULD NOT BE NEEDED UNTIL
2021.
A $50,000 REDUCTION TO THE
DEPARTMENT'S TRAVEL BUDGET, A
$345,000 REDUCTION TO COMMAND
STAFF SALARIES OR ELSEWHERE.
THE DEPARTMENT COULD MAKE THAT
CHOICE VIA A BUDGET PROVISO.
$80,000 REDUCTION TO FREE UP
FUNDING FOR A GREEN NEW DEAL
OVERSIGHT BOARD, AND THEN
378,000 TO TRANSFER THE VICTIM
ADVOCATES FROM SPD TO THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WITH THAT AS A SUMMARY, I'LL
STOP AND GO TO THE OPTIONS AND
ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
OH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> SORRY, I HAD TO TRY AND
REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT MY
QUESTION IS RELEVANT TO 2021.
MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT FOR
SOME OF THESE SPECIALTY UNIT
REDUCTIONS, THERE WERE ALREADY
VACANCIES IN THOSE UNITS.
IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION,
GREG?
>> YES, THERE WERE ALREADY
VACANCIES IN SOME OF THE
UNITS.
YES, THERE WERE.
THESE PARTICULAR POSITIONS
THAT WERE BEING REDUCED WOULD
CAUSE LAY OFFS, BUT THERE WERE
ALREADY VACANCIES THE
DEPARTMENT HAD ALLOCATED TO
QUITE A FEW OF THE UNITS.
>> SO THESE REDUCTIONS COULD
CAUSE LAY OFFS, BUT COULD WE
AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT
GIVEN THAT THESE UNITS, MANY
HAVE VACANCIES, TAKE THE
SAVINGS THROUGH THE VACANCIES?
OR PERHAPS THE BUDGET ALREADY
PROPOSES TO DO THAT?
>> WELL, I THINK THE LATTER IS
TRUE.
THE REASON THE LAY OFFS WERE
HAPPENING IN 2020 INSTEAD OF
TAKING SALARY SAVINGS FROM THE
VACANCIES IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR
HAD ALREADY REDUCED THE
SAVINGS FROM THE SALARY
VACANCIES AS PART OF COVID %
RELIEF.
I BELIEVE THE SAME IS PROBABLY
TRUE HERE.
THE SWORN SALARY SAVINGS
REDUCTION IS PROBABLY PROBABLY
LEAVE THE COUNCIL LIMITED IN
THE SAME WAYS.
THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD FIND
OUT MORE ABOUT.
BUT I WOULD VENTURE TO SEE
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO
LOOK INTO.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS.
>> SO PATTY, GO AHEAD AND FLIP
TO THE OPTIONS SLIDE IF YOU
WOULD, PLEASE.
WHICH IS, AGAIN, THESE OPTIONS
ARE DEVELOPED TO ASSIST THE
COUNCIL WITH THE STATED POLICY
OF REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OPTION A, ENACTING CUTS IN THE
2021 BUDGET MIRRORING THE
MID-SUMMER BUDGET.
THE FIRST ONE BEING TO CUT THE
SPD BUDGET WITH THE ASSUMPTION
THAT ATTRITION WILL OCCUR,
BEYOND WHAT IS PROPOSED.
THERE'S A CUT WITHOUT ASSUMING
ANY TRADITIONAL ATTRITION JUST
BECAUSE SO MANY FOLKS LEFT IN
2020.
IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO, THEY
COULD ASSUME TRADITIONAL
ATTRITION AND TAKE MORE.
OPTION TWO IS MORE LAY OFFS,
THAT THE LAY OFFS SOUGHT IN
2020 COULD BE MOVED INTO 2021.
THAT CAN BE DONE BY SPECIFYING
OUT OF ORDER LAY OFFS OR
REVERSE SENIORITY LAY OFFS.
EITHER WAY, STAFF WOULD
PROBABLY RECK MEANT A PROVISO
AS IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO
DETERMINE HOW AND WHEN THOSE
WOULD HAPPEN.
OPTION B IS REDUCING THE
TRAVEL BUDGET AND PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES BUDGET TO ANNUALIZE
OR EXPAND THE CUTS MADE IN THE
SUMMER.
OPTION C IS REDUCING COMMAND
STAFF SALARIES TO ANNUALIZE
THE CUT MADE IN THE SUMMER.
OPTION D IS NO ACTION.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY
COMMENTS ABOUT THE OPTIONS?
>> OKAY, SEEING NONE FOR RIGHT
NOW.
THANK YOU, GREG.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT THIS IS
WHERE I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
MY COLLEAGUE LISA KAYE.
WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME
BACKGROUND AND ISSUES SHE'S
IDENTIFIES ON THE 911 CALL
CENTER.
UM, I MIGHT END BY SAYING
DIDN'T MEAN TO BE EVASIVE ON
WHETHER OR NOT THE PUBLIC
SAFETY GOALS THAT THE COUNCIL
IS SEEKING TO ACHIEVE COULD BE
MET THROUGH THE CHANGES IN THE
2021 BUDGET.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
THE MAYOR IS LOOKING TO DIG
INTO WITH THE TASK FORCE SHE'S
PUTTING TOGETHER AND HOW THE
COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE FOR
THAT, WHETHER THEY WANT TO
WAIT FOR THE TASK FORCE OR
MAKE ASSUMPTIONS AND START
MOVING FORWARD THEMSELVES IS A
POLICY CALL.
CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE THE
COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO ASK THE
CHIEF TO ANSWER SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY,
AND I CAN SEEK ANSWERS FROM
THE CHIEF ABOUT DEPLOYMENT AND
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND HOPEFULLY
PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME
INFORMATION.
WITH THAT I'D TURN IT OVER TO
LISA.
>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON
THAT, AND I DEFER TO MY
COLLEAGUES TRACKING THIS ISSUE
MORE CLOSELY.
I THOUGHT THAT THE EARLIER
COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THE TASK
FORCE WAS REALLY ABOUT WHERE
THE ALLOCATION OF POTENTIAL
FUNDING GOES.
THERE WERE THE FOUR BUCKETS
IDENTIFIED, AND I THINK THE
QUESTION HAD BEEN PUT TO THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PARTICIPANTS
OF THE TASK FORCE ON HOW THE
DOLLARS SHOULD BE ALLOCATED.
IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS OFF THE
TABLE WHERE THE REDUCTIONS
SHOULD COME FROM.
IS THAT ALSO PART OF WHAT THE
TASK FORCE IS INTENDED TO LOOK
AT AT THIS POINT?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE
TASK FORCE IS INTENDING TO
LOOK AT REDUCTIONS PER SAY.
I KNOW THEY ARE INTERESTED IN
WORKING MORE ON WHAT
DR. FISHER PRESENTED TO YOU
LAST SUMMER.
THAT'S WHAT KIND OF CALLS
COULD RECEIVE A DIFFERENT TYPE
OF RESPONSE THAN A POLICE
OFFICER.
MUCH LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES WAS SAYING DURING THE
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION SECTION.
AND REALLY WORKING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES
DIFFERENTLY.
I KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION THE
TASK FORCE, ONE THAT THE TASK
FORCE IS LOOKING AT.
I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
ONGOING NOW.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH GREG,
AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO
LISA.
>> THANK YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME
COUNCIL MEMBERS?
>> YES, JUST TRY TO SPEAK UP A
LITTLE BIT MORE, IF YOU CAN.
>> OKAY, YES, I WILL.
THANK YOU, GREG.
I'M LISA KAYE WITH CENTRAL
STAFF.
I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU FIRST
ABOUT THE PROPOSED NEW SEATTLE
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE,
THE PROPOSED 2021 BUDGET WOULD
TRANSFER ABOUT $18.5 MILLION
IN APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE
POLICE 911 CALL CENTER TO A
NEW SEATTLE EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
COUNCIL BILL 119935 WOULD
CREATE THE NEW ENTITY, AND THE
2021 BUDGET ORDINANCE ITSELF
WOULD MAKE THE APPROPRIATION
AND POSITION CHANGES.
THE SECC ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES
THE MAYOR WOULD PROPOSE AND
COUNCIL COULD CONFIRM THE
DIRECTOR OF THE NEW CENTER.
THE ORDINANCE STATES THE
TRANSFER WILL BEGIN ONCE THE
CITY OBTAINS A NEW ORIGINATING
AGENCY IDENTIFYING NUMBER FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I THINK THROUGH THE STATE.
IT'S REQUIRED OF ALL CRIMINAL
JUSTICE AGENCIES OR AGENCIES
SUPPORTING A CRIMINAL JUSTICE
AGENCY.
THIS MEANS THE TRANSFER MAY
NOT BE EFFECTIVE EXACTLY ON
JANUARY 1st, 2021 DEPENDING
ON HOW QUICKLY THE CITY
RECEIVES THIS IDENTIFYING
NUMBER.
AND WORKING WITH LEGAL STAFF
ABOUT THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION
NEEDS A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO
HAVE THE NUMBER BEFORE THE
CENTER IS FURTHER OPERATIONAL.
>> ONE SECOND.
LET ME DO A SOUND CHECK.
CAN FOLKS HERE LISA OKAY?
MIXED RESPONSE.
JUST TRY TO ENUNCIATE A LITTLE
MORE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN
ECHO.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> YEAH, I'M NOT USING MY
OPTIMAL SOUND SYSTEM, SO I'M
SORRY.
>> THAT SOUNDED A LITTLE
BETTER.
>> OKAY, WELL, I WILL TRY TO
ENUNCIATE.
THAT HELPS.
I HAVE FLAGGED ONE POTENTIAL
POLICY ISSUE FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, PATTY.
WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL
PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF
CONTEXT FOR THE ISSUE OF
ECONOMIES OF SCALE FOR THE 911
DISPATCH CENTER.
SEATTLE
CURRENTLY HAS TWO DISPATCH
CENTERS KNOWN AS PUBLIC SAFETY
ANSWERING POINTS OR PSAPS.
ONE IS WITHIN SEATTLE POLICE
AND ONE IS WITHIN SEATTLE
FIRE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CALL
CENTER IS THE PRIMARY CALL
CENTER THAT MEANS ALL CALLS
WITHIN THE CITY OF SEATTLE GO
FIRST TO SPD, AND IF AN
EMERGENCY REQUIRES A FIRE OF
MEDICAL RESPONSE, SPD FORWARDS
THAT CALL TO THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
THE CITY'S TWO DISPATCH
CENTERS ARE ACTUALLY PART OF A
COUNTY-WIDE 911 SYSTEM THAT
INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 12 PUBLIC
SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS OR
PSAPS.
SEATTLE, A FEW YEARS AGO,
PARTICIPATED IN CREATING A
REGIONAL 911 STRATEGIC PLAN
PUBLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 2017.
IT SOUND THE REGIONAL SYSTEM
IS FACING SIGNIFICANT FISCAL
CHALLENGES IN ADAPTING THE
SYSTEM TO NEXT GENERATION
TECHNOLOGY.
SO BOTH THE STATE AND THE
COUNTY HAVE PERIODICALLY
DISCUSSED CONSOLIDATING THE
PSAPS.
THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN
RELATIVELY CONTROVERSIAL WITH
DIFFERENT PARTIES.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE MAYOR
HAS ASKED HER NEW
INTERDEPARTMENTAL TEAM FOR
COMMUNITY SAFETY TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT A LONG
TERM VISION OF CREATING A
UNITIED EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS DISPATCH AND
INFORMATIONAL REFERRAL CENTER.
THE OPTIONS SHOWN HERE ON THE
SLIDE YOU'RE SEEING WOULD
PROVIDE A MORE DEFINITIVE
TIMELINE FOR CONSIDERATION OF
THE ISSUE.
OPTION A WOULD SIMPLY REQUIRE
A REPORT BACK BY A CERTAIN
DATE ON POTENTIAL ECONOMIES OF
SCALE AND OTHER COST BENEFITS
ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER
EMERGENCYING OR COLOCATING THE
SPD DISPATCH CENTERS IN THE
INDEPENDENT NEW COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER.
OPTION B WOULD GO A STEP
FARTHER AND REQUIRE THE
EXECUTIVE TO ESTABLISH A DATE
CERTAIN OR BY A DATE CERTAIN,
A TIMELINE BY WHICH THE TWO
CALL CENTERS WOULD BE
COLOCATED OR MERGED.
AND OPTION C WOULD ADOPT THE
ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED.
THERE'S ONE BUDGET ACTION
SUBMITTED RELATIVE TO THIS
LEGISLATION FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT IT
DURING THE PRESENTATION THIS
MORNING, WHICH WOULD EXPAND
THE FUNCTION AND RENAMING THE
SEATTLE EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER BY
ADDING PARKING ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS.
>> THANK YOU, LISA.
I'M JUST CHECKING HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA
STEPPED AWAY.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION OR
COMMENT AROUND ISSUE FOUR?
I'M SCROLLING THROUGH AND NOT
SEEING ANY RAISED HANDS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FLAG MY
INTEREST IN, UM, IN ONE OF
THESE OPTIONS.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHICH YET.
I THINK THE QUESTION OF
POTENTIAL ECONOMIES OF SCALE
IS A GOOD ONE AND NOT
SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF MYSELF,
SO THANK YOU LISA, AND I'LL
GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT WHICH OF
THESE OPTIONS, A OR B LOOK
BETTER.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO
PROCEED TO ISSUE FIVE WHICH IS
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT?
>> PLEASE DO.
>> AND THERE ARE NO FORM AS ON
THIS.
SO I'LL BE VERY QUICK ON WHAT
MY ANALYSIS TURNED UP HERE.
SO AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE 2021
BUDGET WOULD TRANSFER ABOUT
$2.5 MILLION, AGAIN, AND 15
FTES FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO CREATE AN
INDEPENDENT OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WITHIN
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
COUNCIL BILL 119933 WOULD
CREATE THE INDEPENDENT OFFICE
AND THE 2020 BUDGET ORDINANCE
WOULD MAKE THE APPROPRIATION
AND POSITION CHANGES.
THE MAYOR WOULD PROPOSE AND
THE COUNCIL WOULD CONFIRM THE
DIRECTOR.
THAT POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT
SINCE A RESIGNATION ABOUT A
YEAR AGO, AND THE EXECUTIVE
ANTICIPATES FILLING THAT
POSITION BY THE END OF THIS
YEAR.
THE OPTIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDE
WOULD ALIGN THE NEW ORDINANCE
WITH MUNICIPAL CODE LANGUAGE.
I'LL DO THIS QUICKLY FOR YOUR
FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
OPTION A WOULD ADDRESS THE
OFFICE OF STATUTORY AUTHORITY
FOR SPECIFIC AREAS AND REMOVE
REFERENCE TO INTERNAL
OPERATING POLICIES.
SO, UM, IT WOULD MAINTAIN, SO
BASICALLY IT'S REALIGNING THE
NEW ORDINANCE WITH THE
EXISTING MUNICIPAL CODE
LANGUAGE.
THIS AMENDMENT, IF YOU CHOSE
OPTION A, WOULD MAINTAIN
COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL
OVER THE COMPREHENSIVE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IT CURRENTLY COMES TO COUNCIL,
BUT WOULDN'T UNDER THE NEW
ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD MAINTAIN AN ANNUAL
REPORT TO COUNCIL ON ACTIVITY
IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
SUB FUND.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE A LOT
OF STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS WE
GET PERTAINING TO EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT.
AND IT WOULD DO A LITTLE BIT
OF HOUSEKEEPING ON CLEANING UP
LANGUAGE AROUND HAZARD
MITIGATION AND TRAINING
FUNCTIONS.
OPTION B IS BASICALLY THE SAME
AS OPTION A, BUT WOULD KEEP IN
THE LANGUAGE THAT THE
DEPARTMENT OR THE OFFICE ASKED
TO HAVE THAT REQUIRES
COMPLIANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT ACCREDITATION
PROGRAM STANDARDS.
OEM WAS THE FIRST NORTHWEST
CITY TO GET THIS
ACCREDITATION, BUT THE
DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED KEEPING
INTERNAL POLICIES SUCH AS
COMPLIANCE WITH EXTERNAL
ACCREDITATION STANDARDS OUT OF
THE CODE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO
UPDATE THE CODE AS FREQUENTLY
WHEN STANDARDS CHANGE BY SOME
OTHER ENTITY.
SO, AND THEN OPTION C WOULD
PASS THE ORDINANCE AS
PROPOSED.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S ALL I
HAVE.
>> THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN
THE INDEPENDENT, TO ENSURE
GREATR INDEPENDENCE, ANY
COMMENTS HERE?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I
DEFER TO LISA'S, UM, GOOD
ADVICE ON THE AMENDMENTS
NECESSARY TO THE PROPOSED
ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT,
UM, OEM IS ABLE TO CONTINUE
OPERATING AS ENVISIONED WITH
THE HIGH LEVEL OF
ACCREDITATION IT RECEIVES AND
WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT
AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD
ACCOMPLISH THAT.
>> OKAY, I'M NOT SEEING ANY
OTHER HANDS.
>> THERE WERE NO BUDGET
ACTIONS PROPOSED RELEVANT TO
OEM.
I THINK IT MIGHT GO BACK TO
GREG AT THIS POINT IF THERE'S
MORE DISCUSSION ON BUDGET
ACTIONS FOR SPD.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> SO BEFORE I GET GOING, I
WANT TO CLARIFY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA, MADAM
CHAIR, YOU WERE RIGHT.
I MISSPOKE WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT
THE TASK FORCE ABOUT
REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT'S NOT THE TASK FORCE, IT'S
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY WORK
GROUP THAT'S LOOKING AT, UM,
REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY AND
DETERMINING HOW OFFICERS GET
DEPLOYED AND TO WHAT CALLS.
I MESSED UP THE NAME THERE, SO
I APOLOGIZE.
>> THAT'S OKAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF FLOATING
BODIES WITH NEW NAMES OUT
THERE.
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY WORK
GROUP IS THAT ALSO THE
INTERDEPARTMENTAL TASK FORCE?
>> I THINK SO, BUT I DON'T
WANT TO GET MYSELF IN MORE
TROUBLE.
>> OKAY, I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES MAYBE HAS, DO YOU HAVE
CLARIFICATION ON THAT?
>> THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE
ENTITIES.
>> OKAY.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
>> SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE
MAY WANT TO DO MATRIX TO SHOW
THE VARIOUS ENTITIES, I KNOW
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ WAS
ALSO THINKING THROUGH SOME
MATRIXES AS WELL.
SO WE'LL ENDEAVOR TO HELP
CLARIFY THIS.
>> AND MY COLLEAGUE TOMORROW
HAS A MATRIX PUT TOGETHER
SHOWING THE TASK FORCES AND
BREAKS IT DOWN FOR COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I'M NOT JUST REMEMBERING IT AT
THE MOMENT.
BUT SHE HAS THAT READY FOR YOU
TOMORROW.
>> WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO OFFER
THAT CLARIFICATION THIS
AFTERNOON.
OKAY, LET'S GET INTO THE FUN
PART HERE.
WALKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS,
UM, BUDGET ACTIONS, STATEMENTS
OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT.
IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT?
PAGE 16?
SO PAGE 16 OF THE CENTRAL
STAFF MEMO, IF FOLKS ARE
FOLLOWING ALONG IN THEIR
BUDGET PACKETS WITH THAT
INFORMATION OR FOR THE VIEWING
PUBLIC, THAT'S THE SLIDE THAT
CORRESPONDS WITH WHERE WE'RE
AT.
>> PATTY, IF YOU'D FLIP TO THE
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO SPD OVERTIME SPENDING BY
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
AND JUST FOR SPEED HERE, I'LL
READ THE TITLE, AND IF THERE'S
A SUMMARY THAT MAKES SENSE,
I'LL GO OVER IT, BUT WE'LL
PROBABLY TURN IT OVER TO
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUMMARIZE
THEIR OWN PROPOSALS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES, THIS IS JUST A
REPORTING ACTION.
IT JUST ASKS THAT SPD REPORT
ON OVERTIME SPENDING TO
COUNCIL ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
IT DOESN'T GET TO THE ISSUE WE
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHICH IS
ACTUALLY SEEKING A FURTHER
REDUCTION.
BUT STILL, THIS IS, I THINK,
UM, IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD
AS A WAY OF HIGHLIGHTING THE
COUNCIL'S INTERESTS IN HAVING
SOME CERTAINTY THAT THE
EXECUTIVE IS WORKING TO GET
BETTER CONTROLS OVER TIME,
CONSISTENT WITH THE 2016 CITY
AUDITOR RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> THE NUMBER THREE IS -- OH,
I'M SORRY, QUESTIONS?
>> I DON'T SEE ANY, THANKS.
>> SO NUMBER THREE, REDUCTION
IN SPD VACANCIES AND UNFILLED
POSITIONS IS A MISPRINT ON
BEHALF OF STAFF.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD HAS
EXPRESSED INTENT TO REDUCE
VACANCIES, BUT THE NARRATIVE
HERE DOES NOT MATCH.
SO I'LL LET HER EXPRESS HER
INTENT, AND WE'LL SEEK TO
CORRECT THE RECORD WITH AN
UPDATED STAFF REPORT.
>> SOUNDS GOOD.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> SO YEAH, THIS PROPOSAL IS
ACCURATE IN EVERY WAY EXCEPT
FOR, UM, IN THE NARRATIVE
DESCRIPTION IN THE MEMO IT
SUGGESTS THAT I'M UNINTERESTED
IN CAPTURING THE FUNDING
BEHIND THESE VACANT POSITIONS
THAT WE WOULD ALSO ABROGATE,
SO I'M INTERESTED NOT ONLY IN
ABROGATING THE 16 VACANT
POSITIONS AND 17 UNFUNDED
VACANT POSITION, BUT I'M ALSO
INTERESTED IN CAPTURING THE
FUNDING RELATED TO THOSE
POSITIONS.
BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THE RECK IN
ADDITION THAT, UM, THE TOTAL
POSITION FUNDING AND AUTHORITY
IN THE 2021 PROPOSED BUDGET IS
LIKELY TO BE A MISMATCH, UM,
GIVEN THE RECENT REDUCTIONS IN
STAFF, THE SEPARATIONS IN 2020
AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
UNLIKELY TO BE ABLE TO FILL
THE POSITIONS THAT ARE IN THE
2021 PROPOSED BUDGET, I MIGHT
WANT TO CONSIDER SCRAPPING
THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE OPTION
THAT GREG RECOMMENDS BECAUSE
IT ACCOMPLISHES, I THINK,
THIS, WHAT THE GOAL IS IN
BUDGET ACTION THREE PLUS MORE.
>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
QUESTIONS ON THAT?
OKAY.
>> SO NUMBER FOUR IS
INCREASING THE OPA'S
INDEPENDENCE VIA A PROVISO.
IT WOULD TRANSFER, SEEK TO
TRANSFER THE OPA OUT OF THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
THAT'S BROUGHT BY COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSON.
>> THANK YOU.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A
RELATIVELY NEW POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM THAT'S
BEEN DRAMATICALLY TESTED AND
STRETCHED DURING THE RACIAL
RECKONING AND PROTESTS
FOLLOWING THE WRONGFUL KILLING
OF GEORGE FLOYD AND COUNTLESS
OTHER BLACK, INDIGENOUS, AND
PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AS WE KNOW, THIS
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM INCLUDES
THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL, AND THE
OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS I'VE HEARD
EXPRESSED RECENTLY IS THAT OPA
WHILE RUN BY CIVILIANS IS
STILL HOUSED WITHIN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS BUDGET ACTION TRIES TO
TAKE STEPS TOWARD MAKING OPA
FULLY INDEPENDENT.
SO WHILE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE
OVERALL ON THE POLICE CONTRACT
WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE
OFFICER'S GUILD, PUSHING
FORWARD TO MAKE OPA FULLY
INDEPENDENT FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WILL HELP TO
IMPROVE, BUILD UPON THOSE
REFORMS ALREADY IN PLACE.
BECAUSE OPA INVESTIGATES
POTENTIAL POLICE MISCONDUCT
AND ALLEGATIONS HAVE INCREASED
DURING THE RECENT PROTEST, THE
IDEA IS TO SPUR THIS ACTION.
I WOULD LOOK TO CENTRAL STAFF
TO RECOMMEND HOW BEST TO
RECOMMEND, WHAT BUDGET TOOLS
WE HAVE, A STATEMENT OF INTENT
OR BUDGET PROVISO TO SEE THIS
HAPPENS SOON SO WE KNOW THE
FULL STEPS REQUIRED TO MAKE
OPA INDEPENDENT.
I UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE
CONCERNS, ONE OF THE REASONS
IT'S HOUSED WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS TO HAVE IMI
NSTANT ACCESS TO THE DATA,
BUT THERE MUST BE A WAY TO
GIVE THEM GREATER
INDEPENDENCE, BUT ALSO ACCESS
TO THAT DATA.
>> OKAY, QUESTIONS?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT
THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT THE
MAYOR RAISED WHEN WE FIRST
STARTED TALKING AT REENVISIONS
PUBLIC SAFETY AND HAVING A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHICH UNITS
WERE APPROPRIATE TO TRANSFER
OUT OF SPD.
THE MAYOR HAD IN EARLY DAYS
IDENTIFIED OPA AS ONE SUCH
ENTITY THAT MIGHT BE BEST
SERVED BEING TRANSFERRED OUT
OF SPD.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN
FROM THE DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT,
AND THAT'S PART OF, I BELIEVE,
WHY THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
AND I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE I
CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR
MYERBURG ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF
BEING, SORT OF, NOT LITERALLY
HOUSED, BUT ORGANIZATIONALLY
UNDER SPD AND THE DIFFICULTY
THAT MIGHT PROVIDE IN THE
SHORT TERM WHEREAS MAYBE
PERHAPS OVER A LONGER TERM
PERIOD IT MIGHT BE A GOOD
THING TO DO.
BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A
PROVISO, THAT'S.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUS
SOMETHING THAT IS IMPLEMENTED
IN A WAY THAT'S PUNITIVE UNTIL
THE OBJECTIVE IS ACCOMPLISHED.
SO I'D BE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT
USING THAT AS THE MECHANISM.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
AS CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE, I'D DEFER TO YOUR
WISDOM ON THIS AND WORK WITH
GREG TO REFRAME IT AS A SLIDE
AND GET MORE INFORMATION TO
MOVE FORWARD.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE
FANTASTIC, THANK YOU.
>> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER
FIVE.
>> THAT'S REPORT ON USING
NONSPD OFFICERS FOR SPECIAL
EVENT TRAFFIC CONTROL.
AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW,
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
ARE USED IN SOME SITUATIONS IN
TRAFFIC CONTROL AND OTHER
SITUATIONS SPECIFICALLY THAT
WHERE LIGHTS ARE BEING
REDIRECTED.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL WOULD
SEEK TO IDENTIFY THE COST
SAVINGS IF PEOS WERE USED
INSTEAD OF OFFICERS, IF I SAID
THAT RIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
THIS IS THE ONE I THINK I WAS
GETTING CONFUSED WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON, HELP
US UNDERSTAND MORE.
>> I THINK THERE IS SOME
COMMON GROUND WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
I THINK SHE'S SEEKING TO DO
EVEN MORE.
SOME OF THE FORM AS, WE PUT
THEM TOGETHER NOT HAVING THE
BENEFIT OF TALKING TO ALL
EIGHT OF OUR COLLEAGUES
BEFOREHAND.
SO THIS IS COMMON GROUND WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
ALSO I THINK GREG'S CHART
WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT THE
OVERTIME COSTS AND HOW HE
FILLED IN SOME OF THE
INFORMATION WITH WHAT'S
REIMBURSED AND WHAT'S NOT.
REALLY THIS IS JUST MEANT TO
BE USEFUL.
CAN WE FIND WAYS TO SAVE
MONEY.
WILL WE BE SAVING MONEY BY
HAVING THESE PROFESSIONALS GO
FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR
SDOT OR WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD IS SUGGESTING.
I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE A WAY
TO SAVE MONEY TO TAKE THE
MONEY AND WE DEPLOY IT TO THE
COMMUNITY.
SO GREG, LOOKING TO YOU, IF
YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
USEFUL TO HELP US HOW MUCH
MONEY WE COULD SAVE, WE CAN
PROCEED WITH THIS, OTHERWISE I
CAN JUST DEFER TO COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD'S OPTION.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, DO
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD
TO THAT?
>> UM, SO I THINK COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSON'S CORRECT IN
THAT I AM LOOKING NOT ONLY TO
HOPEFULLY GET SAVINGS RELATED
TO PEOS DOING THIS WORK, BUT I
THINK IT'S BEYOND, UM, THERE'S
THIS QUESTION OF TRAFFIC
CONTROL WHEN THERE'S A TRAFFIC
CONTROL DEVICE AND WHEN
THERE'S NOT A TRAFFIC CONTROL
DEVICE.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY, I'M
GETTING MYSELF IN TROUBLE BY
TRYING TO REMEMBER THE
DIFFERENCES HERE.
BUT THERE'S A QUESTION OF
WHETHER OR NOT PEOS CAN BE
FLAG GERS IN BOTH INSTANCE.
BOTH WHEN THERE'S A TRAFFIC
CONTROL DEVICE AND WHEN IT'S A
FREE INTERSECTION.
BUT I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE
OF GETTING A REPORT, BUT I'M
ALSO INTERESTED IN FIGURING
OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO
AUTHORIZE PEOS TO DO THIS WORK
FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IN BOTH
INSTANCES.
I KNOW THERE'S A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION RELATED TO THIS
ISSUE, AND I'M JUST, AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER, INTERESTED
TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN
EITHER UNDER THE CURRENT TITLE
OR BY REINTRODUCING WITH THE
NEW TITLE WORK TO BROADEN THE
AUTHORIZATION FOR PEOS TO DO
THIS KIND OF WORK IN MORE
INSTANCES.
>> ANY COMMENTS COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON?
>> I'LL WORK WITH GREG DOSS ON
THIS.
BASICALLY JUST WANTED TO BE A
USEFUL TOOL TO SEE WHERE WE
CAN SAVE MONEY.
THIS SEEMED TO BE SOME LOWER
HANGING FRUIT ON HOW TO SAVE
MONEY AND DEPLOY, REDEPLOY TO
COMMUNITY.
SOT I'LL TALK WITH GREG OFF
LINE WHETHER WE CAN COMBINE IT
WITH ANOTHER REPORT WE'RE
GETTING OR NOT.
>> GREAT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT TO
THE EXTENT THAT, UM, WE'RE
ABLE TO JUST ACT UPON IT
WITHOUT A REPORT, THAT'S
SOMETHING I'M ALSO INTERESTED
IN.
OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD.
ITEM NUMBER SIX.
>> THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS IMPACT ON
RESPONSE TIMES BY COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSON, A PROPOSAL
THAT WOULD REQUEST A REPORT ON
RESPONSE TIMES AFTER
UNEXPECTED OFFICER ATTRITION
IN 2020 AND 2021, AND RELATIVE
TO CHANGES IN THE FOURTH
QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON?
>> THANK YOU.
THIS REPORT IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE INFORMATION WE ASKED FOR
WHEN WE PASSED 119825, BUT
THAT BILL JUST APPLIES TO
REPORTING IN 2020, SO THIS IS
ADDITIONAL REPORTING THROUGH
2021 ON PREDICTED IMPACTS TO
RESPONSE TIMES.
BUT FOCUSING ON JUST THE
PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY TWO
CALLS, UM, I AGREE WITH MY
COLLEAGUES EARLIER WHO WERE
NOTING YOU REALLY DON'T NEED
TO MEASURE THE RESPONSE TIME
TO LOWER PRIORITY CALLS.
I THINK THE 7 MINUTE RESPONSE
TIME SHOULDN'T BE FOR LOWER,
RIGHT GREG?
>> I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY MORE
LIKE 9 MINUTES.
IT'S IN THE APPENDIX.
>> I JUST THINK WE CAN
CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM
INFORMATION ON RESPONSE TIMES
TO PRIORITY ONE AND TWO CALLS
AS WE SEE THE POLICE FORCE
NUMBERS AND PATROL CHANGING
OVER TIME.
>> I'M NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
HANDS.
OH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, GO
AHEAD?
OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE WITH
YOU THE CONCEPT OF EVALUATING
HOW MANY OF THESE CALLS COULD
BE HANDLED BY A CONSULTING
NURSE.
I KNOW IN THE PAST I
UNDERSTAND FROM THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AS WELLS THIS IS AN
ISSUE THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD
AT VARIOUS POINTS, BUT IT
SEEMS LIKE WITH THE DATA WE
NOW HAVE AND THE LIVED
EXPERIENCE OF MEMBERS THE
HEALTH ONE, AND I THINK, YOU
KNOW, A RECKONING, A
REAWAKENING OF HOW WE CAN
BETTER UTILIZE OUR PUBLIC
SERVICES AND RESPOND TO PUBLIC
SAFETY MATTERS, MAYBE THERE'S
MORE INTEREST NOW IN
DETERMINES HOW THESE CALLS
COULD BE HANDLED BY A NURSE ON
THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE
VERSUS SENDING SOMEONE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D BE
INTERESTED IN ADDING TO THE
REPORT AS WELL?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> GREAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
UM, TWO THINGS.
ONE, AS IT RELATES TO THE
NUMBER OF REPORTS WE REQUESTED
AS PART OF OUR, THE COUNCIL
BILL, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE
NUMBER, BUT THAT WE PASSED
DURING REBALANCING.
WE DO HAVE A REQUEST IN TO SPD
THROUGH SHARE POINT WHETHER OR
NOT THEY INTEND TO RESPOND TO
THOSE REPORTS, AND IT MAY, I
UNDERSTAND THIS IS, YOU'RE
FOCUSED ON 2021, BUT IT MAY,
IF THEY ARE WORKING ON THOSE
REPORTS, IT MAY, UM, MAKE IT
NOT AS NECESSARY, BUT THIS IS
DEFINITELY INFORMATION WE HAVE
TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BEGIN
TAKING STEPS ON THIS
TRANSITION, AND I AM FEELING
VERY ANXIOUS ABOUT THE FACT
THAT IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT
ANY WORK IS BEING DONE ON THIS
AREA OF THE COUNCIL'S STATED
INTEREST.
I ALSO WANT TO FLAG THAT, UM,
UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S EXPANSION OF
HEALTH ONE, I THINK IT WOULD
BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO
GET, IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE
IT, AN ESTIMATE FROM POLICE
AND FIRE WHETHER OR NOT THEY
ANTICIPATE A FURTHER REDUCTION
IN THE NEED FOR RESPONSE TO
911 CALLS THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED EXPANSION
OF HEALTH ONE TO ADD A SECOND
TEAM.
AS WE'RE THINKING OF THINGS WE
WANT TO DO TO REDUCE THE
RELIANCE ON THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO SPD,
911 CALLS, WE SHOULD ALSO BE
THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
AGAIN, WHAT SYSTEMS WE ALREADY
HAVE IN PLACE TO TAKE SOME OF
THESE CALLS, WHETHER OR NOT IT
IS, UM, A SYSTEM THAT'S
ALREADYING
ALREADYING HOOKED UP TO 911
LIKE HEALTH ONE OR FOLKS WHO
HAVE ABILITY TO DO CRISIS
RESPONSE BUT ARE NOT HOOKED UP
TO THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS AN AREA SO CRITICAL
FOR US TO DO ANALYSIS AND
PROPOSING SOLUTIONS ON NOW.
I'M JUST HOPING WE DON'T FIND
OURSELVES HALFWAY INTO THE
YEAR NEXT YEAR AND STILL NOT
HAVING THE ANSWERS TO SOME OF
THESE QUESTIONS.
>> YOU RAISED A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT.
WE'VE ASKED A NUMBER OF THESE
QUESTIONS ALREADY.
WE REALLY NEED THIS DATA TO BE
ABLE TO BOTH INVEST
APPROPRIATELY AND ENSURE THAT
WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE
PUBLIC'S CONCERN ABOUT BOTH
PUBLIC SAFETY AND MAKING SURE
THE RIGHT FOLKS ARE SHOWING UP
WHEN 911 IS CALLED.
CENTRAL STAFF, CAN YOU
ELABORATE ON THAT?
IS THERE ANY INDICATION THE
EXECUTIVE IS RESPONDING TO THE
REQUESTS AND DO WE HAVE ANY
UPDATE ON WHEN WE CAN
ANTICIPATE THAT INFORMATION?
BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
IS CORRECT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE IT TO MOVE
FORWARD.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON'S
PIECE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE WANT THE ANSWERS, BUT WE'VE
MADE THE REQUESTS BEFORE.
>> I WOULD ASK GREG TO RESPOND
IF HE HAS ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE HAS
HEARD IF THE EXECUTIVE IS
INTENDING TO RESPOND TO THESE
SPECIFIC REPORT REQUESTS.
I'LL JUST NOTE IN GENERAL,
BECAUSE OF THE VETO ACTION AND
THEN THE VOTE TO OVERRIDE THE
VETO, THE ACTUAL EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THE LEGISLATION WHERE
THESE REPORTS WERE REQUESTED
IS OCTOBER 22nd.
SO I THINK IT IS AN OPEN
QUESTION IN A GENERAL WAY OF
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE
FULFILLING THAT REQUEST, AND
GREG MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION IF HE'S IN MORE
DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE
DEPARTMENTS AND WITH THE
BUDGET OFFICE ANALYSTS WHO
STAFF THESE DEPARTMENTS.
I WILL ALSO JUST NOTE, IN
TERMS OF MAKING A REQUEST FOR
A SLIDE, IF THEY DO RESPOND IN
A MORE TIMELY MANNER, MAY NOT
BE NECESSARY.
THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE BUDGET
ADOPTS STATEMENTS OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT AND AFFIRMS
THE REQUESTS BY RESOLUTION IN
THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AND WE
WELCOME AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS
ON THAT LIST WHEN WE ADOPT
THAT RESOLUTION, SO THERE
WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ELIMINATE THEM IF THEY'RE NO
LONGER NECESSARY, WHICH WOULD
BE A HAPPY OUTCOME.
>> IN FOLLOWING UP TO WHAT ALY
SAID, WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE
EXECUTIVE FROM CBO IS THAT
THEY ARE TAKING THE WORK OF,
UM, MANY OF THOSE REPORTS,
SPECIFICALLY FINDING THE
ALTERNATIVE PUBLIC SAFETY
RESPONSES AND ROLLING THAT
INTO, LET'S SEE IF I GOT IT
RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S THE
IDT WORK THAT'S SUPPORTING THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY WORK GROUP.
THEY'RE ROLLING IT INTO THAT
PROCESS.
THAT'S WHAT I HEARD IN TERMS
OF THEIR EFFORTS AROUND THAT
WORK.
>> YEAH, AND SO, ALY, I MISSED
A LITTLE OF WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
YOU'RE SAYING ONE OF THE
REPORTS ISN'T DUE INTO
OCTOBER 20 SOMETHING?
>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
I WAS SAYING THE LEGISLATION
THAT INCLUDED THIS REQUEST
DOESN'T TECHNICALLY GO INTO
EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER 22nd,
SO IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD
BECAUSE THE DATES FOR THE
REQUESTED REPORTS SORT OF
PRECEDE, COME BEFORE WHEN THE
BILL GOES INTO EFFECT --
>> YEAH, I REMEMBER ONE OF THE
REPORTS THAT I'M THINKING OF,
IT MAY BE THIS ONE, IS DUE ON
SEPTEMBER 30th, OR WAS DUE
ON SEPTEMBER 30th.
SO WE KNOW WE DIDN'T GET THAT
ONE.
AND I ALSO REMEMBER HEARING,
UM, DIRECTOR NOBLE, SAYING THE
WORK WOULD BE ROLLED INTO IN
IDT, SO WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS,
CENTRAL STAFF, WHEN COUNCIL IS
ASKING FOR ANALYSIS AND WORK
TO BE DONE, AND WE'RE ASKING
ACCORDING TO, IN A WAY,
LEGISLATIVELY, RIGHT?
AND IN THIS CASE, VIA
ORDINANCE.
AND WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE
SAYING NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO
DO THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO ROLL IT OUT ON
OUR OWN TIMELINE THROUGH OUR
OWN PROCESS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER
OPTIONS WE HAVE UNDER THAT
SCENARIO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
ALINE WITH, UM, UM, WITH HOW
WE WANT TO MOVE THIS WORK
FORWARD.
>> ALY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT, BUT
THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS TO THAT.
YOU MADE THE REQUEST IN THE
LEGISLATION THAT BECOMES
EFFECTIVE ON THE 22nd, AND
COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE SOME
OF THE REPORTS THAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT WERE DUE ON THE
15th, SO WE KNOW WE DIDN'T
GET THOSE EITHER.
IN TERMS OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT
THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE
A STRONGER REQUEST VIA PROVISO
OR OTHER ACTION, COUNCIL STAFF
CAN ADVICE YOU ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> VERY IMPORTANT, THANK YOU.
IT ALSO MAKES IT MORE
IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND
HOW ALL THESE REQUESTS ALREADY
IN STATUTE ARE FILTERING INTO
THE PROPOSED MATRIX THAT WE'LL
HOPEFULLY HAVE A VISUAL OF
SOON.
AND AGAIN, BACK TO THIS ITEM
NUMBER SIX HERE, WANTING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO KEEP
OUR FINGER ON THE, SORRY, KEEP
PUSHING ON THE NEED TO HAVE
THIS INFORMATION IF IT NEEDS
TO REMAIN IN THIS BUDGET FOR
US TO POTENTIALLY TAKE OUT
EARLY
NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER OF
WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT INTO
STATUTE AND WHAT WE EXPECT IN
TERMS OF REPORT BACKS AND
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE
COLLEAGUES HERE TO FURTHER
IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN PUSH TO GET
THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY, NUMBER SEVEN.
>> THIS IS REDUCING COST IN
THE SEATTLE POLICE OFFICER'S
GUILD CONTRACT.
COSTS SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED
WITH SALARY, PREMIUM PAYS, AND
SPECIALTY PAYS BROUGHT BY
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON.
>> THANK YOU.
THE THANKS CHAIRMAN MOSQUEDA.
THIS ONE IS, UM, BASICALLY
WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON, SO
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS
HERE.
I THINK IT WILL BE A BENEFIT
TO THE PUBLIC AND POLICY
MAKERS TO QUANTIFY AND SHINE A
LIGHT ON THE MOST EXPENSIVE
COST DRIVERS IN THE CURRENT
CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE
UNION, SUMP AS EXCESSIVE
OVERTIME, EXTRA PAY TO WEAR
BODY CAMERAS, GENEROUS
VACATIONS, TAXPAYER
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNION'S
DEFERRED COMP PROGRAM.
JUST QUANTIFYING AND
DAYLIGHTING, YOU KNOW, WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THE HUNDRED PAGE
CONTRACT, IT'S HARD TO KNOW
HOW MUCH EACH ONE COSTS,
WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THE
EXCESSIVE COST FROM THE
CONTRACT.
I THINK TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE
COMMENTS RAISED FROM EARLIER
THIS MORNING, I'D PROBABLY
REWORD THIS SO IT'S REALLY,
INSTEAD OF LOOKING WHERE TO
REDUCE THE COST, IT WOULD JUST
BE QUANTIFYING THE DIFFERENT
COST DRIVERS WITHIN THE
CONTRACTS AS SORT OF A NEUTRAL
LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND WHERE
IT'S COSTING THE MOST MONEY ON
EACH OF THE LINE ITEMS.
AND THIS WOULD BE A STATEMENT
OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS?
I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING
MORE ON THIS ITEM.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I THINK WE
MAY HAVE SKIPPED OVER NUMBER
ONE, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN
PART OF LISA'S SUMMARY, AND I
MISSED IT.
BUT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF
TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PUBLIC
AND WITH US, CAN WE GO BACK TO
ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS
EXPAND THE FUNCTION IN
RENAMING THE SEATTLE
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, SOUNDS
SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT WANTED
TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO
ADDRESS IT AS WELL.
LISA, I'M SORRY IF YOU ALREADY
INCLUDED THAT IN YOUR SUMMARY,
BUT LET'S DO THAT REAL QUICK.
>> THANK YOU.
SO YOU DID TALK ABOUT THIS,
UM, A LITTLE BIT AT THE SDOT
MEETING THIS MORNING.
IT WOULD EXPAND THE FUNCTION
OF AND RENAME THE SEATTLE
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER.
IT WOULD ADD PARKING
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND
RENAME THE EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER THE
SEATTLE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD,
ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A BIT
DURING THE SDOT PRESENTATION
THIS MORNING.
I IDENTIFIED AT THAT TIME THE
NUMBER OF FUNCTIONS THAT THE
POLICE OFFICER'S GUILD, I'M
SORRY, THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER'S GUILD IS INTERESTED
IN TAKING ON THAT WOULD
REQUIRE BARGAINING.
I THINK THE ONE POINT I'D LIKE
TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HIGHLIGHT NOW RELATES
SPECIFICALLY TO THE NAME
CHANGE.
IF WE ARE LOOKING AT
FULFILLING THE REQUEST OF THE
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
TO NOT BE TRANSFERRED TO SDOT,
BUT INSTEAD TO BE TRANSFERRED
TO THE NEW DEPARTMENT, THEN IF
THAT'S THE CASE, IF WE DO TAKE
THAT ACTION AS A COUNCIL, THAT
DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT BE NAMED
SEATTLE EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER BECAUSE
BY MOVING THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, I
BELIEVE IT MAKES, TO THAT
DEPARTMENT, IT'S BROADER THAN
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMARY.
ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY, THANKS SO MUCH, FOLKS.
I APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK TO
THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, I
APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THAT ON
OUR RADAR.
LET'S RESUME NUMBER 8.
FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, WE'RE
ON SLIDE 17.
I'M SORRY, PAGE 17 IN THE
MEMO, SLIDE 24.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU
COUNCIL MEMBER.
NUMBER EIGHT IS REDUCING SPD'S
BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY OVERTIME
PERSONNEL OR OTHER
DISCRETIONARY EXPENDITURES TO
INVEST IN BIPOC COMMUNITIES,
AND IT'S BROUGHT BY COUNCIL
MEMBER MORALES.
>> THANK YOU, GREG AND CHAIR
MOSQUEDA.
I WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY
SAYING I AM INTERESTED IN
WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE
STAFFING AND WORK WITH HER ON
HER FORM AS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
IF WE WANT TO DECREASE POLICE
VIOLENCE, WHICH IS WHAT ALL
THE THESE PROTESTS HAVE BEEN
ABOUT, WE NEED TO REDUCE
CONTACTS WITH POLICE.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE ENDING
POLICE ROLL ON THE NAV TEAM.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVESTING IN
PROGRAMS LIKE COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS AND CHOOSE 180.
GIVEN THE RESEARCH THAT
DECREASING CONTACT BETWEEN THE
PUBLIC AND THE POLICE IS THE
BEST WAY TO REDUCE POLICE
VIOLENCE, GIVEN THAT MOST OF
THE 911 CALLS THAT ARE MADE
ARE IN FACT NOT FOR CRIMES BUT
FOR NUISANCE CALLS AND THINGS
LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WE CAN'T REALLY
DEMONSTRATE THAT RANDOM
PATROLS ACTUALLY PREVENT CRIME
OR PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
I'M NOT INCLINED TO PRIORITIZE
MAINTAINING A STAFFING LEVEL
BASED ON WHAT SEEMS LIKE
ARBITRARY METRICS.
AND WE KNOW MOST OF US HAVE
MADE A COMMITMENT TO REDUCE
THE SIZE OF THE FORCE AND THE
BUDGET BY 50%.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN WORKING
WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO GET US
THERE, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH KING COUNTY EQUITY NOW
AND OTHER GROUPS TO DEVELOP A
PLAN FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS,
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS OR WORK WITH MY
COLLEAGUES WHO WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE MOVE THAT FORWARD
WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM,
COLLEAGUES?
OKAY, MOVING ON.
NUMBER NINE.
>> NUMBER NINE IS TRANSFERRING
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICE
POLICEMAN OUT OF SPD AND INTO
THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S
BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
>> GREAT, DO WE HAVE COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT WITH US?
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD
MOVE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE
PROGRAM AS GREG SAID OUT OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND INTO
THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS.
JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL
MEMBERS THAT COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS ARE NOT POLICE
OFFICERS.
THEY DO NOT CARRY WINS, AND AS
WE KNOW, THERE ARE MANY
QUESTIONS THAT POLICE ARE SENT
TO WHERE A SOCIAL WOULD BE FAR
MORE EFFECTIVE AND
NON-HARMFUL, AND THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICER'S PROGRAM
TRIES TO PILOT THAT APPROACH.
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS
THEMSELVES, WITH MANY OF WHOM
HAVE DISCUSSED PERSONALLY WITH
MY OFFICE, THEY ARE DEDICATED
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO
DO EXTREMELY GOOD WORK, BUT
THEY HAVE DETERMINED THAT
OPERATING UNDER THE COMMAND
STRUCTURE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAS MADE IT FAR
MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO
SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MOVED
OUT OF POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS WHAT
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD
DO.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
I'M SEEING --
>> I HAVE A QUESTION,.
>> PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
>> I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS AT ALL
WITH THE TEAMSTERS WHO
ORGANIZE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS?
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN INTERESTED
IN PURSUING A PLACE TO MOVE
THE CSOS TOO, AND I THINK THIS
IS AN INTRIGUING OPTION.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN YOU SAID
THEY'VE BEEN GETTING ORGANIZED
IF THAT WAS POTENTIALLY A
REFERENCE TO TALKING TO THE
TEAMSTERS ABOUT THIS AS WELL?
>> I THINK, YES, THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THAT UP COUNCIL
MEMBER LEWIS.
I WILL UPDATE COUNCIL MEMBERS
IN A FUTURE COMMITTEE, BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT DOES
NOT, WHEN I SAY ORGANIZED, IT
DOES NOT ONLY IMPLY THEY'VE
BEEN TALKING TO THE TEAMSTERS,
WHICH I KNOW THEY HAVE, BUT
ALSO THEY'VE BEEN TALKING
AMONGST ONE ANOTHER AND
GETTING ORGANIZED AMONGST
THEMSELVES, AND AS A GROUP
THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO MY
OFFICE.
I KNOW MY STAFF HAS BEEN
REACHING OUT TO THEM TO SEE
HOW INVOLVED THEY HAVE AND HOW
WE CAN PROCEED ON THIS MATTER.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
I'M NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, DID
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS?
>> YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE
INTERESTED TO BENEFIT WITH THE
CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE BEEN
HAVING WITH CSO EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS THE FIRST FULL YEAR
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE
CITY SINCE IT WAS
REINSTITUTED.
I'M NOT COMMITTED TO THEM
BEING HOUSED AT SPD, AND IF
THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT FROM
WHERE THEY'RE DEPLOYED AND
THINK ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WOULD
BE A BETTER FIT, I WOULD
WELCOME THE CHANCE TO BENEFIT
FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS
WELL.
>> IF I MIGHT QUICKLY RESPOND,
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT I THINK
THE COUNCIL WILL, AS A WHOLE,
BENEFIT FROM HAVING MORE
INFORMATION, AND I WILL
ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT WE
SHARE, AT LEAST ON E-MAIL, IF
WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE
IMMEDIATELY TOMORROW TO COME
BACK TO THIS GIVEN OTHER
AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL MAKE SURE
WE SHARE ALL OF THIS ON
E-MAIL, AND I WELCOME YOUR
STAFF MEMBERS OR YOURSELVES IN
THE DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON
THIS?
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER
10.
>> ITEM NUMBER 10 IS
TRANSFERRING SOME OF THE
HARBOR PATROL FUNCTIONS TO THE
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
IT'S BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M JUST, I WAS JUST TRYING TO
TRACK DOWN WHAT THE RESOLUTION
31962 SAID.
I DON'T WANT TO GET THE CART
BEFORE THE HORSE.
I'M INTERESTED IN DETERMINING
WHAT FUNCTIONS MIGHT BE ABLE
TO BE TO BE TRANSFERRED.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY ASSUMING
THAT THOSE FUNCTIONS CAN BE
TRANSFERRED.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S A
LOT OF OVERLAP, AND I'VE ALSO
BEEN TOLD THERE'S AN MOA THAT
DEFINES WHAT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT DO AS IT RELATES TO
RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES IN
THE WATER.
SO IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF
THIS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
SPEAK TO THIS UNDERSTANDING
THAT THERE'S AN MOA THAT WOULD
PROBABLY HAVE TO COME FIRST.
IF GREG AGREES THAT MY
RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT, THAT
THE LAST TIME THIS ISSUE CAME
UP, THERE WAS A LOT OF
CONTROVERSY ABOUT IT AND
RATHER THAN MAKING THE
DECISION, RATHER THAN THE
POLICY MAKERS MAKING THE
DECISIONS, EVERYBODY SAT DOWN
AT A TABLE AND FIGURED OUT WHO
WOULD DO WHAT.
AFTER MANY YEARS SINCE THAT
AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED,
AGAIN, I'M HEARING THAT
THERE'S A NEED TO RETURN TO
THAT AGREEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S
A DUPLICATION OF ACTIVITIES
AND THINGS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
IS DOING, I'M SORRY, THINGS
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING
THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR FIRE
TO DO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, YOU
ASKED ME TO WEIGH IN AND SAY
YES THERE'S AN MOU THAT
DEFINES ROLES, I THINK IT'S
SPECIFICALLY AROUND DIVERS,
BUT MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS
TOO.
>> AND, UM, AS THIS IS DRAFTED
NOW, I THINK IT ASSUMES A LOT
MORE SIMPLICITY THAN IS
POSSIBLE.
IS THAT DIRECT?
WE CAN'T JUST TRANSFER HARBOR
DEPARTMENT IN OUR BUDGET IRE
ACTION.
THAT WOULD BE, AGAIN,
SOMETHING THAT, SOME OF IT
WOULD HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATED AS
PART OF THE MOU AND SOME WOULD
HAVE BEEN BARGAINED, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
ANY TIME THERE'S A BODY OF
WORK OWNED BY ONE UNION THAT
WOULD POTENTIALLY MOVE TO
ANOTHER, IT NEEDS TO BE
NEGOTIATED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSON,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD FOR
BEING SENSITIVE TO THE PAST
SITUATIONS WITH THIS.
IN MY RIDE ALONG WITH HARBOR
PATROL, PART OF IT IS THE
GEOGRAPHY WHERE HARBOR PATROL
IS MORE IN LAKE UNION AND LAKE
WASHINGTON.
I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT,
YOU PROBABLY SEE THEM A LOT
MORE IN ELLIOTT BAY AND WEST
SEATTLE.
SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT
SURE THERE WOULD BE ANY, I'D
BE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE COST
SAVINGS WOULD BE BECAUSE RIGHT
NOW YOU DON'T HAVE A FIRE
DEPARTMENT ON LAKE UNION, BUT
YOU HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
THERE.
IF YOU'RE JUST MOVING A
DEPARTMENT THERE, I DON'T
KNOW, I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT THE
BENEFITS OF THAT, SO I LOOK
FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOU
BRINGING THIS UP COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
LOOK INTO AS THIS ITEM
POTENTIALLY MOVES FORWARD IS
HOW WE ENSURE SAFETY FOR
ONSHORE ACTIVITY THAT'S ONLY
ACCESSED FROM THE WATER.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST AREA OF
CONCERN FROM THE MARITIME
INDUSTRY.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO
EARNING MORE.
I KNOW THIS IS AN AREA OF
INTEREST TO MANY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, DID
YOU HAVE SOMETHING AS WELL?
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD AND PEDERSON AND GREG
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK ONE POINT TO NOTE
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME IS
CURRENTLY HARBOR PATROL HAS A
PROACTIVE PATROLLING OF OUR
FRESH WATERS, AND THAT WOULD
BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO CONTINUE TO SEE IF IT WAS
TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER
DEPARTMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT
THERE ARE, I THINK IT WILL BE
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
LEVEL OF PATROL IS NEEDED BY
SWORN OFFICERS COMPARED TO
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS
REGARDING DIVE TEAMS, ET
CETERA.
THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK HERE,
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING
MORE.
>> ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE ON
NUMBER 11.
>> RIGHT, NUMBER 11.
DEFUNDING SPD'S BUDGET BY 50%
BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THIS IS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT
TO DEFUND THE POLICE BY 50% AS
7 OF THE 9 COUNCIL MEMBERS,
INCLUDING MYSELF, PROMISED TO
DO EARLIER THIS SUMMER DURING
THE HEIGHT OF THE JUSTICE FOR
GEORGE FLOYD MOVEMENT.
THROUGHOUT THIS, THE MAYOR HAS
DONE MASSIVE CUTS TO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING LAY
OFFS, AND THERE'S NO LEGAL
REASON THAT CONTINUE BE DONE
IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
INSTEAD OF THE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS.
REDUCING THE FUNDING AND THERE
HAVE THE SIZE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WOULD MEAN THE
POLICE WOULDN'T HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO
OVERSTAFF AND ABUSE BLACK
LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, NOT TO
MENTION THE CHRONIC TARGETING
THEY DO OF HOMELESS NEIGHBORS.
THEY'D HAVE LESS TIME TO
HARASS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AS
A WHOLE, BUT STILL HAVE A
MASSIVE $180 MILLION LEFT OVER
FOR THEIR BUDGET.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHEN
GENUINE COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS
DEMANNED TO DEFUND THE POLICE,
THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT.
ACTUALLY REDUCING THE FORCES
OF OPPRESSION IN SOCIETY.
THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM MANY OF
THE ACCOUNTING GIMMICKS THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS USED.
THERE'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT INTO OTHER
DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS WITH NO
TANGIBLE CHANGE IN REAL TERMS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY
IS TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S ALSO SOME GENUINE
REDUCTIONS IN POLICE SPENDING,
PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE
IMPACT OF THE MOVEMENT.
HOWEVER, THE GENUINE
REDUCTIONS ARE FAR, FAR FROM
50%.
TO CALCULATE WHAT'S NEEDED TO
DEFUND THE POLICE, WE TOOK
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND
ADJUSTED FOR TECHNICAL
ADJUSTMENTS AND ACCOUNTED FOR
THE TRANSFERS TO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS AND DIVIDED THE
REMAINDER IN HALF, SUBTRACTED
THE GENUINE REDUCTIONS IN THE
MAYOR'S POLICE BUDGET, AND
WHAT IS LEFT IS THE
170 MILLION ODD DOLLARS THAT
STILL NEED TO BE DEFUNDED,
WHICH IS WHAT THIS BUDGET
AMENDMENT WOULD DO.
THAT'S OF COURSE A LOT OF
CALCULATIONS TO DESCRIBE
VERBALLY.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE
WORK SHEETS MY OFFICE PRODUCED
WITH ANY INTERESTED, BUT I
THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL WE
UNDERSTAND THE REASON THIS IS
SO COMPLICATED IS BECAUSE OF
THE LAYERING AND OTHER
ACCOUNTING TRICKS USED TO TRY
TO DEFLECT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
HAVE REAL LIP UNDERSTANDING
WHAT THE BUDGET REPRESENTS AND
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE
CITY THAT ARE STILL, WHO STILL
COME INTO PUBLIC TESTIMONY
DEMANDING THE DEFUNDING OF THE
SPD.
COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A REAL
OPTION TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON
THE COMMITMENT EXPRESSED TO
DEFUND OPPRESSIVE POLICING AND
INSTEAD PUT THE FUNDS IN
GENUINELY UPLIFTING OUR
COMMUNITIES.
OVER THE SUMMER, WE HEARD MANY
THINGS FROM COUNCIL THAT IT'S
COMPLICATED AND WOULD TAKE
MONTHS TO DEFUND THE POLICE,
AND I SAID AT THE TIME THAT
WAS AN EXCUSE IN MY VIEW, BUT
REGARDLESS, NOW IT IS VERY
SIMPLE, AND IT'S BEEN MONTHS
SINCE THE PROMISES WERE MADE,
AND I WOULD REALLY URGE
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CO-SPONSOR
THIS AND VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS
AMENDMENT AND SORT OF
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A
TECHNICAL QUESTION, BUT IT'S A
QUESTION OF WHETHER
POLITICALLY WE WANT TO DO THIS
OR NOT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I JUST REMEMBER FROM THE
2020 REBALANCING EXERCISE,
WELL, IT WAS MORE THAN AN
EXERCISE, IT WAS A VOTE.
THAT CENTRAL STAFF DID SOME
ANALYSIS AROUND WHAT A 50% CUT
WOULD BE, AND I THINK IT WOULD
HAVE, IT WOULD RESULT IN, UM,
A REDUCTION IN SOMETHING LIKE
700 OFFICERS, DOES THAT --
>> YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE
EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS MANY
HUNDREDS, YEAH.
>> AND WOULD A 50% REDUCTION
IN TESTIMONY JULY HAVE THE
SAME RELATIVE, SAME IMPACT AS
A 50% CUT IN AN ANNUAL BUDGET
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR?
STILL WOULD BE AROUND THAT
SAME NUMBER OF OFFICERS?
>> IT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT,
IT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT
IMPACT, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE
OBVIOUSLY DRASTIC.
YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, UM, JUST
UNDER 1400 FTE AND 384
CIVILIANS, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE
A 50% REDUCTION, GIVEN THE
PERSONNEL COSTS THAT I TALKED
ABOUT AT THE FRONT OF THE
PRESENTATION, YEAH, HUNDREDS.
>> AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE,
UM, THE RISKS OF MAKING THIS
SIZE OF A CUT WITHOUT
BARGAINLING IT AND SPENDING
THOSE DOLLARSIN A HIGHER
PRIORITY AREA THAT THE COUNCIL
MIGHT IDENTIFY?
>> WELL, I THINK AS CENTRAL
STAFF NOTED LAST SUMMER THAT
THE, THAT ANY LAY OFF WOULD
REQUIRE BARGAINING WHETHER
IT'S IMPACT OR DECISION
BARGAINING.
IT WOULD BE THE CASE THAT AN
ATTEMPT BY THE COUNCIL TO CUT
THE DOLLARS AND NICHE WAIT LAY
OFFS MIGHT BE A PROBLEM LATER
IF THE UNION WIND UP
CHALLENGING THOSE LAY OFFS AND
CAN SUCCESSFULLY CHALLENGE IT
TO THE POINT WHERE THE FUNDING
COULD BE REALIZED IN THE 2021
BUDGET.
IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY MEAN THAT
THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO COME
BACK AND FIX TO WHOLE SO TO
SPEAK.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY
RISK ASSOCIATED.
>> SO HAVING, IN THE CASE OF
THIS PROPOSAL, HAVING TO FUND
AN ADDITIONAL $173 MILLION?
>> POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON --
>> 170.3.
YEAH.
AND I THINK THIS ISSUE, TO BE
FAIR TO COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT,
I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT
MIGHT IMPACT, UM, MANY
DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF, UM,
OF DECISIONS THAT WE MIGHT
CONSIDER MAKING AROUND
STAFFING REDUCTIONS.
BUT GREG, CAN YOU SPEAK
BRIEFLY TO THE ISSUE THAT'S
BEEN RAISED AROUND THE CONSENT
DECREE AND THE MONITOR'S
POSITION ON STAFFING CUTS?
>> I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT
I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING ON THAT
IS THAT THE MONITOR HAS
SUGGESTED THAT STAFFING CUTS
BE REVIEWED BY DOJ TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY WOULD NOT PUT
THE DEPARTMENT IN A POSITION
WHERE IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE
WITH ANY OF THE PARTICULAR DOJ
MANDATES AROUND THINGS LIKE
SPAN OF CONTROL AND OTHER
STAFFING-BASED REQUIREMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT, TO CLOSE US OUT
ON THIS ITEM, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> YEAH, JUST TO SAY THAT
YEAH, THE ESTIMATE GREG HAD
AROUND 700 IS ACCURATE BECAUSE
IT'S 1400 ODD OFFICERS.
AND I WOULD JUST ALSO TAKE
ATTENTION BACK TO ONE OF THE
GRAPHS GREG HAD OF WHICH WE'VE
KNOWN FOR AWHILE THAT OVER 80%
OF THE BUDGET IS SALARIES AND
OVERTIME, SO IT HAS TO COME
FROM THIS SOURCE OTHERWISE
TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE
TO DO DEFUNDING.
AND THE WHOLE POINT IS
REDUCING CONTACT BETWEEN
POLICE OFFICERS AND COMMUNITY
MEMBERS AND THAT SOCIAL
WORKERS AND NURSES, AS YOU
SAID CHAIR MOSQUEDA, AND
OTHERS SHOULD BE PERFORMING
MANY OF THOSE DUTIES TO REDUCE
TREMENDOUS HARM, INCLUDING
LOSS OF LIFE AS WE'VE SEEN FOR
EIGHT PEOPLE, ACTUALLY UNDER
MAYOR DURKAN'S REIGN WHEN THEY
COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE
POLICE.
I THINK FROM EVERYTHING WE'VE
SEEN, AND THE LARGEST EVER
STREET PROTEST IN U.S. HISTORY
WITH OVER 20 MILLION PEOPLE
GOING OUT IN JUSTICE FOR
GEORGE FLOYD, THIS IS THE
THEME, AND NOT A SINGLE CITY
HAS DELIVERED ON THIS ACTUALLY
DESPITE MANY, UM, MANY
POLITICIANS MAKING PROMISES.
BUT AS FAR AS THE BARGAINING
IS CONCERNED, OF COURSE WE'RE
NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T BE
BARGAINING.
THAT'S A NECESSARY PROCESS, OF
COURSE.
BUT THE CITY, AS THE
LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS BUDGETING
AUTHORITY, AND WE'VE HAD THESE
DISCUSSIONS BEFORE, AND I
WOULD JUST ALSO HAD ONE LAST
POINT AS A MEMBER OF A LABOR
UNION MYSELF THAT ABSOLUTELY
THE RIGHT OF EVERY UNION TO
BARGAIN FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE
OUTCOMES OF LIVING STANDARDS
IF WERE THEIR MEMBERS IS
SOMETHING THAT I WILL ALWAYS
FIGHT FOR, BUT AT THE SAME
TIME WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT THE POLICE UNION HAS NOT
PLAYED THE SAME RULES AS LABOR
UNIONS IN GENERAL.
INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO
ALL.
THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY ON WHICH
THE LABOR MOVEMENT IS BASED
ON, AND THAT WAS THE
UNDERLYING ANALYSIS THROUGH
WHICH THE MLK LABOR COUNCIL
MEMBERS VOTED TO REMOVE THE
SEATTLE POLICE OFFICER'S GUILD
FROM THE LABOR COUNCIL.
NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE A
UNION, BUT BECAUSE THE WAY THE
POLICE OFFICER'S GUILD HAS
REACTED AND BEEN AN OBSTACLE
TO REAL POLICE REFORM.
WE HAVE BUDGETING AUTHORITY
AND SHOULD TAKE THAT AUTHORITY
AND DOING AND BARGAIN THE
EFFECTS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO KEEP US MOVING
ALONG.
ITEM NUMBER 12.
IF WE SPENT 3 MINUTES ON EACH
OF THE REMAINING ITEMS WE
SHOULD END RIGHT ON TIME.
I'LL PUT THE TIMER ON TO KEEP
US MOVING ALONG, BUT I
APPRECIATE THE ROBUST
DISCUSSION.
LET'S GO AHEAD.
>> NUMBER 12, REINTRODUCING
THE CHANGES MADE TO THE SPD
BUDGET DURING THE MID-2020
BUDGET PROCESS MADE BY COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS
ONE, I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO
ADD.
I'LL SAVE YOU 3 MINUTES.
>> ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
LET'S KEEP GOING THEN.
NUMBER 13.
>> NUMBER 13 IS TRANSFERRING
THE SPD PERFORMANCE ANALYTICS
AND RESEARCH UNIT FROM THE SPD
TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY BROUGHT BY
COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.
>> ANYTHING TO ADD TO THESE?
>> JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM,
THE PERFORMANCE ANALYTICS AND
RESEARCH UNIT IS ONE THAT
REALLY FOCUSES ON MUCH OF THE
RESEARCH THAT DRIVES MANY OF
THE, UM, POLICING STRATEGIES
AND PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGIES
AT THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, SO THIS PARTICULAR
ITEM IS, I THINK, CONSISTENT
WITH OTHER PROPOSALS AND
ACTIONS TO TRANSFER VARIOUS
UNITS OUT OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THIS
PROPOSAL WOULD PLACE THE
HIGHLY ANALYTICAL RESEARCH PAR
UNIT INTO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC
SAFETY.
THE MISSION AND SKILL SET OF
THE PAR UNIT CLOSELY LINES
WITH THE FUNCTIONS OF THE IG
WHICH IS WHY I'M PROPOSING
THIS POSSIBLE TRANSFER.
WE'RE EXPLORING THE LOGISTICAL
IMPLICATIONS, BUT BASED ON THE
SUBSTANTIVE BODY OF WORK OF
THIS UNIT, I THINK IT WOULD
BE, UM, PRODUCTIVE FOR US TO
PER SUE THIS POTENTIAL UNIT
UNDER THE LEADERSHIP AND
SUPERVISION OF THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
I WOULD SAY THAT IN A FORM B
CONTEXT, WE'RE LOOKING AT
POTENTIALLY REVISING THIS TO
ALLOW FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PERHAPS MAKE THIS A
FUNCTION-BASED TRANSFER AS
OPPOSED TO A COMPLETE 100%
UNIT TRANSFER, SO IT MIGHT
MAKE SENSE TO LEAVE SOME OF
THESE FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN
ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT
ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, NOT
JUST OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT.
AND STILL SORT OF CREATE A
PATHWAY FOR SOME OF THE IF
FUNCTIONS TO TRANSFER TO OIG.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?
NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR FLAGGING THE
POSSIBLE CHANGE IN THE FORM B.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING
MORE ABOUT THAT ITEM AS IT
EVOLVES.
APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE ON ITEM
NUMBER 14, PAGE 18 OF THE
MEMO.
>> ITEM NUMBER 14 IS
ELIMINATING THE UNFUNDED SWORN
POSITIONS BROUGHT BY COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ, AND YOU'LL
RECALL THAT AT THE TOP OF THE
PRESENTATION, I MENTIONED THAT
THERE ARE 50 REMAINING
UNFUNDED POSITIONS THAT ARE
NOT NEEDED IN THE 2021
STAFFING PLAN.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD AGGREGATE
THOSE POSITIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, GONZALEZ,
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT?
>> NO, I THINK GREG COVERED IT
REALLY WELL.
NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
>> ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS?
GREAT, LET'S GO TO NUMBER 15.
>> NUMBER 15 IS ELIMINATING
THE FUNDED SWORN POSITIONS
UNNEEDED IN THE SPD STAFFING
PLAN.
YOU'LL RECALL THAT EARLIER IN
THE PRESENTATION I TALKED
ABOUT IN THE 2021 BUDGET THERE
ARE 1400 FTES FUNDED AND IT'S
NOT EXPECTED, ACCORDING TO THE
STAFFING PLAN THAT SPD WILL BE
ABLE TO FILL ALL THOSE
POSITIONS.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD REDUCE THE
POSITIONS THAT THEY COULD NOT
FILL.
BROUGHT BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
>> I THINK GREG COVERED IT
WELL, NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON COMMENTS
FROM OUR COLLEAGUES?
OKAY, SEEING NONE.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO
ITEM NUMBER, 16.
>> 16 IS PROHIBITING SPD FROM
REMOVING ENCAMPMENTS UNLESS
CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE
SATISFIED BROUGHT BY COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THIS WOULD PLACE A PROVISO
ON THE BUDGET OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT NO
FUNDS IN THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET CAN BE USED
FOR UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE
ENCAMPMENT UNTIL ALL HAVE
ACCEPTED HOUSING OR MOVED TO A
LOCATION NO FARTHER THAN HALF
A MILE AWAY WHERE THEY CAN
ESTABLISH UNAUTHORIZED
ENCAMPMENT WITH NO HARM TO
THEMSELVES OR OTHERS DIRECTED
TO THIS LOCATION DURING A
PREVIOUS ENCAMPMENT REMOVAL.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THIS BUDGET
AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO WORK
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUDGET
AMENDMENTS TO REMOVE RESOURCES
AWAY FROM THE NAVIGATION TEAM,
HOMELESS OUTREACH AND
SERVICES.
FOR YEARS, THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET
MOVEMENT HAS BEEN DEMANDED AN
END TO INHUMAN AND INEFFECTIVE
SWEEPS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE.
WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE
PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS
IS NOT WORKING AND IT'S
INHUMANE ON TOP OF THAT.
THE SWEEPS DON'T HELP PEOPLE
FIND HOUSING, AND IN REALITY
HAVE A TERRIBLE TRACK RECORD
OF EVEN GETTING PEOPLE INTO
SHELTER.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS OVER AND
OVER AGAIN IN ENDLESS
PRESENTATIONS.
OVERWHELMINGLY THE SWEEPS MOVE
PEOPLE FROM ONE STREET CORNER
TO THE NEXT, ONLY TO BECOME
MORE DESPERATE.
I REMEMBER TESTIFYING IN
PUBLIC COMMENT, A MAN SAID
HE'D BEEN SWEPT EIGHT TIMES
THAT YEAR WITH NO SOLUTION TO
HIS CONDITION.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PAINTS A
PICTURE OF A TEAM THAT HELPS
HOUSELESS PEOPLE MOVE OFF THE
STREETS, BUT THAT'S FAR FROM
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
MANY TIMES THE SWEEPS DON'T
INCLUDE A NAVIGATION TEAM, THE
POLICE HAVE MAKE PEOPLE MOVE
ALONG.
IF A POLICE OFFICERTELLS
SOMEONE THEY HAVE TO MOVE
ALONG, THEN THEY CAN'T HAVE
THEIR TENT SOMEWHERE, THEY
MUST OFFER ANOTHER LOCATION
NEARBY THAT'S LESS HARMFUL,
SAFEFUL FOR THE RESIDENT AND
LESS OF AN IMPEDIMENT TO
TRAFFIC AND SO ON.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN GIVING A
FLIER FOR A SHELTER THAT MAY
NOT EVEN HAVE AN OPEN BED.
THIS MEANS CONCRETE SOLUTIONS.
THIS IS ABOUT HARM REDUCTION.
WE NEED TINY HOUSE VILLAGES
AND OTHER SERVICES BETTER FOR
PEOPLE TO SLEEP UNSHELTERED.
WHILE WE WORK TO EXPAND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INTERIM
SOLUTIONS, WE ALSO NEED A
HUMANE POLICY WITH REGARD TO
SWEEPS AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE
CITY STOP CAUSING HARM.
WE CAN FOCUS THE CITY'S
RESOURCES ON ACTUALLY
PROVIDING HOUSING AND
SERVICES.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST A FEW
QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION.
I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE YOU
HAVE OUTLINED HERE IS A
HELPFUL EXAMPLE OF THE
SITUATIONS IN WHICH
INDIVIDUALS MAY BE ASKED TO
MOVE, BUT THE CONDITIONS UNDER
WHICH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASK
PEOPLE TO MOVE.
I THINK YOU OUTLINED IT WELL.
I THINK THIS HELPS GET AT THE
QUESTION FOLKS HAVE ASKED
ABOUT WHAT ABOUT ISSUES WHERE
THERE'S AN UNSAFE AREA OR A
TRUE HAZARD.
COULD YOU COMMENT ABOUT HOW
THIS LANGUAGE HELPS ADDRESS
THOSE TWO CONCERNS BROUGHT UP?
>> I THINK THAT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT POINT, AND I FEEL
THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT NEEDS TO
BE ADDED TO THE EXISTING
LANGUAGE IN THIS PROVISO
BECAUSE WE HAVE TRIED TO
INCORPORATE ALL CONDITIONS,
BUT MAYBE JUST ADD HAZARDOUS
LOCATIONS OR IF YOU HAVE
SUGGESTIVE LANGUAGE WE CAN
ADD, WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD TO IT.
BUT THE MAIN THING IS WHAT WE
ATTEMPT TO DO WITH THIS
PROVISO LANGUAGE IS TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THERE ARE REAL
SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S NOT
IDEAL FOR OUR HOMELESS
NEIGHBORS TO BE SITUATED IN
WHEREVER THEY'RE SITUATED
WHETHER IT'S HARMFUL TO
THEMSELVES OR OTHER COMMUNITY
MEMBERS AND OVERALL A QUESTION
OF PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THAT IT
CAN'T BE DONE IN SUCH A WAY
THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST MOVED AND
SHUNTED FROM ONE SPOT TO
ANOTHER WITH NO SOLUTIONS AND
FUTURES.
SO WE FEEL THAT THIS LANGUAGE,
IF IT IS FULLY ENCAPSULATING
THE CONDITIONS AS YOU
HIGHLIGHTED, IT WILL BE
SOMETHING THAT'S USEFUL.
IF YOU ARE OPEN TO IT, I'D
LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON JUST
MAKING SURE WE INCLUDE ALL THE
LANGUAGE NECESSARY.
>> THANK YOU, AND THANKS FOR
OFFERING THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
OKAY.
LAST THREE ITEMS HERE, FOLKS.
WE ARE DOING WELL ON TIME, SO
ITEM NUMBER 17.
>> ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A
PROPOSAL THAT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT SNUCK INTO THE
POLICE PAPER.
I'M JUST KIDDING.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD BROUGHT
FORWARD DURING THE FIRE ISSUE
PAPER, AND IT'S ONE THAT STAFF
INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT.
IT'S THE REINSTATEMENT OF
COUNCIL FUNDING THAT WOULD
REVERSE THE CUT OF FIRE EXAMS
AND REVERSE THE CUT OF 20
FIREFIGHTERS FROM THE SFD
RECRUIT CLASS.
I GUESS THIS IS, GETTING ON THE
RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD'S PROPOSAL AND
APOLOGIES BY STAFF THAT IT
WASN'T IN THE FIRE PAPER.
>> WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT
DURING THE FIRE PRESENTATION
BECAUSE GREG WAS SO HELPFUL IN
MAKING SURE THERE WAS A
PRESENTATION SLIDE FOR THIS
EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T GET IN
THE PAPER, SO THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
FORWARD AS WE TALKED ABOUT
BEFORE, AND THANKS GREG FOR
MAKING SURE IT WAS REFLECTED
IN THE MATERIALS FOR
RECORDKEEPING PURPOSES.
ALL RIGHT, LAST TWO ARE FROM
OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> ITEM 18 IS ADDING FUNDING,
POTENTIALLY ADDING FUNDING OR
FTE TO EXPAND THE OFFICE OF
THE OIG IF NEEDED TO AUDIT THE
NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITIES AS
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
THERE WERE FUNCTIONS OF SPD,
PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTIONS MOVED
INTO OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR
ESTABLISHED JUST THEIR OWN
ENTITY, AND THIS PROPOSAL
WOULD LOOK AT WHETHER
ADDITIONAL FUNDING ARE NEEDED
TO FULFILL THE OIG'S MISSION
TO AUDIT PUBLIC SAFETY
FUNCTIONS BEING PERFORMED BY
CITY ENTITIES.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GREG COVERED IT, NOTHING TO
ADD.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES?
ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
AND THE LAST ONE, NUMBER 19.
>> LAST ONE IS A POTENTIAL
PROVISO ON SPD'S 2021 BUDGET
TO ENSURE THAT OFFICERS ARE
RECEIVING TRAINING ON HOW TO
APPROPRIATELY ENGAGE WITH SEX
WORKERS.
THERE WAS IN THE 2020 BUDGET A
$200,000 PROVISO FOR THIS KIND
OF TRAINING AND STAFF HAVEN'T
YET BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE
WHETHER THIS TRAINING WAS
DELIVERED.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR
PROPOSAL WAS IN ADVANCE OF, TO
MAKE SURE THE TRAINING IS
BEING DELIVERED IF NOT IN
2020, BUT 2021.
HOPEFULLY I SAID THAT RIGHT.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANYTHING
TO ADD?
>> JUST REALLY QUICKLY,
CONSISTENT WITH WHAT GREG
SAID, I UNDERSTAND THESE FUNDS
WERE CUT IN THE REBALANCING OF
THE 2020 BUDGET, AND I STILL
REMAIN INTERESTED IN THIS BODY
OF WORK AND I ALSO REMAIN
INTERESTED IN POTENTIAL
INTERSECTION OF THE ONGOING
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE KING
COUNTY JAIL FOR JAIL SERVICES
AND HOW THAT WILL BE
REASSESSED AND THE FUNDS ARE
TO BE USED MOVING FORWARD.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE BEING
ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T
LOSE SIGHT OF THIS BODY OF
WORK THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR, AND
IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE, UM,
HAVEN'T BEEN USED AND WE TRACK
THEM DOWN, I THINK THERE'S AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO
EITHER ENCOURAGE THE TRAINING
AS WE ENVISIONED OR TO CAPTURE
THE DOLLARS AS SAVINGS TO FUND
COUNCIL PRIORITIES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS,
COLLEAGUES?
I WILL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
FLAGGING BOTH THAT IT'S A
QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
THE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN USED AND
WHETHER OR NOT THAT TRAINING
HAS OCCURRED, AND ALSO THE
CONTINUED INTEREST IN ENSURING
THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT AND
RETRAINING HAPPENS WITH
OFFICERS.
FOR FOLKS WHO WEREN'T ON
COUNCIL, IT WAS A PRETTY
TELLING MOMENT LATE LAST YEAR
WHEN WE HAD A PRESENTATION
FROM MEMBERS OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND WAYS MANY
MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD
HAVE WISHED THE ENGAGEMENT WAS
DONE DIFFERENTLY.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED THIS HASN'T
BEEN DEPLOYED, OR IF IT HAS,
THAT'S GOOD, BUT IF NOT, LET'S
CONTINUE TO KEEP UP OUR
PRESSURE ABOUT MAKING SURE
THIS TYPE OF TRAINING OR
SIMILAR WORK OCCURS IN THE
FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR FLAGGING THIS.
GREG, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
>> NOTHING.
>> I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF
ALL YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON.
GREG WALKED US THROUGH ALMOST
THREE HOURS OF A PRESENTATION.
THANKS AS WELL TO LISA AND ALY
FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS SECTION
OF THE BUDGET.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MANY FORM
A IDEAS NOT PUT FORWARD, AND
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ISSUES
YOU IDENTIFIED THAT DIDN'T
CORRESPOND DID CERTAIN AREAS.
WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL
THE ISSUES CENTRAL STAFF HAVE
IDENTIFIED, AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF
YOU ON THIS IMPORTANT
COMPONENT OF OUR BUDGET GIVEN
THE LARGE DOLLAR FIGURE AND
THE COMMUNITY CALL FOR ACTION
ON THIS.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FOR
THE GOOD OF THE ORDER ON THIS?
I'M SEEING NONE FROM OUR
CENTRAL STAFF.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
GREG, ALY, LISA, EVERYBODY WHO
PRESENTED TODAY.
THIS DOES SUMMARIZE THE END OF
OUR AGENDA FOR TUESDAY,
OCTOBER 20th.
TOMORROW WE WILL MEET AGAIN,
OCTOBER 21st.
WE START AT 9:30 A.M., AND
WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
THE MORNING.
PLEASE SIGN UP.
THE SIGN UP SHEET STARTS AT
7:30 A.M.
WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST HALF HOUR
DEVOTED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND
THEN GET INTO THE FINAL DAY OF
DELIBERATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS
ABSORBING INFORMATION ON
CENTRAL STAFF, ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION, AND WE'LL HAVE
A PRESENTATION ON THE ISSUE
IDS, THE FORM AS THAT HAVE
BEEN SUBMITTED BY OUR COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES SPECIFIC TO THE
AREAS OF HUMAN SERVICES,
HOMELESSNESS, AND THE COVID
RESPONSE THROUGHOUT THE DAY
TOMORROW.
I WANT TO ALSO REMIND YOU THAT
OUR FORM B DEADLINES ARE DUE
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 22nd AT
5:00 A.M.
IF YOU HAVE THEM READY, PLEASE
TURN THOSE IN EARLY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
WANT TO BAT AROUND IDEAS,
CENTRAL STAFF TEAM IS HERE TO
HELP FORMULATE THOSE FORM BS
WITH YOU, AND THE EARLIER YOU
GET THEM IN, THE MORE FEEDBACK
THEY CAN GIVE YOU.
WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NOTHING
ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE
ORDER, HAVE A WONDERFUL
EVENING, AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL
AT 9:30 TOMORROW MORNING.
THANKS TO EVERYONE.
SEE YOU IN A FEW HOURS.
TAKE CARE, EVERYBODY.